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Heber J. Grant Believed American Indian Blankets Were Evidence For The Authenticity Of The Book of Mormon

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:39 am
by Everybody Wang Chung
I thought this was interesting. We have Heber J. Grant, in General Conference attesting to the fact that patterns in American Indian blankets are evidence of the authenticity of the Book of Mormon. I'm surprised the Mopologists haven't researched and published in this area.

It's a rather embarrassing example of the cultural and historical ignorance our Church leaders used to have (and many still do).
“While I was in the City of London, a gentleman there, to whom a very dear friend of mine, Col. Alex. G. Hawes, had given me a letter, kindly invited a number of newspaper men to his home to meet me. I am very sorry that the newspaper men declined the honor; but I had the privilege of meeting with this man and his family, and a few friends, and conversing with them. One of his friends had been a member of the British legation at Constantinople and had spent a considerable portion of his life there. He had traveled all over the holy land and was familiar with the people and their customs. Among other things, he said: “Mr. Grant, I was astonished beyond measure, when I visited Canada, to find there oriental patterns woven in beads, by the American Indians. They were the same patterns that were woven in rugs, in the oriental countries. I have traveled extensively, and I had never seen those oriental patterns in any part of the world except in the holy land, until I found them among the North American Indians. Those patterns have been handed down for hundreds of years, from generation to generation; they are kept in families, and can be found nowhere else; and how under the heavens those Indians, who have no connection with the people of the holy land, should have the same patterns is a mystery to me.” “Well, my friend,” I said, “if I were to inform you that the forefathers of these American Indians came from the city of Jerusalem, that would explain it, wouldn’t it?” He replied, “Well, of course, it would.” I asked him if he had ever read the Book of Mormon. He said, “No.” “Well, it will be my pleasure to send you a copy, and from it you will learn that the forefathers of the American Indians came from Jerusalem.” “Well,” he said, “that explains the mystery; I am much obliged for the book.” Now, the one thing for us to do, as Latter-day Saints, is to be loyal, to be true, to be patriotic, to be honest with God; then we need have no fear of what the world may say about us. We have the truth, and we know it, thank God; we know it, though the world may not know it. Let us follow the admonition of the Savior, and let our light so shine that other men seeing our good deeds shall glorify God.”

ELDER HEBER J. GRANT 79th Annual Conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter- day Saints April 4th 1909

Re: Heber J. Grant Believed American Indian Blankets Were Evidence For The Authenticity Of The Book of Mormon

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:10 pm
by Morley
If Indian blankets, then plates. If plates, then God.

Re: Heber J. Grant Believed American Indian Blankets Were Evidence For The Authenticity Of The Book of Mormon

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:37 pm
by Doctor Steuss
Heber J Grant wrote:I am very sorry that the newspaper men declined the honor [to meet me].
Let no one ever accuse him of lacking self-esteem.

Re: Heber J. Grant Believed American Indian Blankets Were Evidence For The Authenticity Of The Book of Mormon

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:51 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
Stupid damned Mormon yokels telling each other they’re going to be Kingz gives them an unearned superiority complex.

Look at MG, that damned fool keeps cranking out testimonkies even when, after everything’s been written for him, he knows deep down it’s BS. Because yokels.

DCP gobbles down goyslop and plagiarizes so much his posts start to look like wikipedia articles, ifyaknowwhatimean, and he was allowed to keep tenure a a Mormon university. Because yokels.

The fact that HJG was surprised journalists weren’t interested in talking to a closeted homosexual polygamist was mystifying to him. Because of course it is. Total mystery! Because yokels.

- Doc

Re: Heber J. Grant Believed American Indian Blankets Were Evidence For The Authenticity Of The Book of Mormon

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:55 pm
by Rivendale
Rodney Meldrum went as far as claiming the braids in Native American's hair were Jewish in origin.

Re: Heber J. Grant Believed American Indian Blankets Were Evidence For The Authenticity Of The Book of Mormon

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:17 pm
by Boomer57
Rivendale wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:55 pm
Rodney Meldrum went as far as claiming the braids in Native American's hair were Jewish in origin.
God help us!!

Re: Heber J. Grant Believed American Indian Blankets Were Evidence For The Authenticity Of The Book of Mormon

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:42 pm
by Kishkumen
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:51 pm
Stupid damned Mormon yokels telling each other they’re going to be Kingz gives them an unearned superiority complex.

Look at MG, that damned fool keeps cranking out testimonkies even when, after everything’s been written for him, he knows deep down it’s B.S.. Because yokels.

DCP gobbles down goyslop and plagiarizes so much his posts start to look like wikipedia articles, ifyaknowwhatimean, and he was allowed to keep tenure a a Mormon university. Because yokels.

The fact that HJG was surprised journalists weren’t interested in talking to a closeted homosexual polygamist was mystifying to him. Because of course it is. Total mystery! Because yokels.

- Doc
Wasn’t it the patriarch Joseph Fielding Smith who was closeted?

Re: Heber J. Grant Believed American Indian Blankets Were Evidence For The Authenticity Of The Book of Mormon

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:55 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
Kishkumen wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:42 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:51 pm
Stupid damned Mormon yokels telling each other they’re going to be Kingz gives them an unearned superiority complex.

Look at MG, that damned fool keeps cranking out testimonkies even when, after everything’s been written for him, he knows deep down it’s B.S.. Because yokels.

DCP gobbles down goyslop and plagiarizes so much his posts start to look like wikipedia articles, ifyaknowwhatimean, and he was allowed to keep tenure a a Mormon university. Because yokels.

The fact that HJG was surprised journalists weren’t interested in talking to a closeted homosexual polygamist was mystifying to him. Because of course it is. Total mystery! Because yokels.

- Doc
Wasn’t it the patriarch Joseph Fielding Smith who was closeted?
I don’t think Smith was very closeted. I know Heber liked Smith and Heber had a serious drinking problem (drowning his real self?), but yes, I’m being cavalier with my guess.

- Doc

Re: Heber J. Grant Believed American Indian Blankets Were Evidence For The Authenticity Of The Book of Mormon

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:12 am
by Philo Sofee
Rivendale wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:55 pm
Rodney Meldrum went as far as claiming the braids in Native American's hair were Jewish in origin.
Nooooooooo...... come on! Do you have a source for this? I gotta see it to believe this one. Please let me see a source.....

Re: Heber J. Grant Believed American Indian Blankets Were Evidence For The Authenticity Of The Book of Mormon

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:31 am
by Rivendale
Philo Sofee wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:12 am
Rivendale wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:55 pm
Rodney Meldrum went as far as claiming the braids in Native American's hair were Jewish in origin.
Nooooooooo...... come on! Do you have a source for this? I gotta see it to believe this one. Please let me see a source.....
There is google. Rodney Meldrum Indian braids. https://youtu.be/V8ID-4G9EYM?t=4591