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LDS Inc buys Kirtland Temple from Mormon rivals for $192 million

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:25 am
by drumdude
Today, Tuesday, March 5, 2024, the responsibility and ownership for the Kirtland Temple, several historic buildings in Nauvoo, and various manuscripts and artifacts officially transferred from Community of Christ to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for an agreed-upon amount. Together, we share an interest in and reverence for these historic sites and items and are committed to preserving them for future generations.

Discussions leading to this landmark agreement commenced in June 2021. “This exchange of assets is significant for our church,” said Stephen M. Veazey, president of Community of Christ. “Through funding from increased endowments, Community of Christ will have greater capacity to pursue our mission priorities around the world, including continuing to fulfill the divinely envisioned purposes for our Temple in Independence, Missouri.”
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... sus-christ

Re: LDS Inc buys Kirtland Temple from Mormon rivals for $192 million

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:55 am
by Shulem
Wow, just wow. :shock:

Re: LDS Inc buys Kirtland Temple from Mormon rivals for $192 million

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:06 am
by Markk
"It will not be converted into a functioning Latter-day Saint temple."

????? Why then???? Are they going to just offer free tours? Maybe have one of those coin things where you pay a quarter to stick a penny in it and get a stamped out replica of the Temple?

Re: LDS Inc buys Kirtland Temple from Mormon rivals for $192 million

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:16 am
by Philo Sofee
Such an astonishing lack of vision..... but hey, we gettin' PAID!!! You can buy anything in this world for money.

Re: LDS Inc buys Kirtland Temple from Mormon rivals for $192 million

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:57 am
by Markk
Philo Sofee wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:16 am
Such an astonishing lack of vision..... but hey, we gettin' PAID!!! You can buy anything in this world for money.
Reverse engineering this, is the CoC saying good bye to Joseph?

Re: LDS Inc buys Kirtland Temple from Mormon rivals for $192 million

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 3:38 am
by Res Ipsa
Markk wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:57 am
Philo Sofee wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:16 am
Such an astonishing lack of vision..... but hey, we gettin' PAID!!! You can buy anything in this world for money.
Reverse engineering this, is the CoC saying good bye to Joseph?
Hard to say. Maybe it’s eyes on the prize. Winning converts takes money and that’s more important than owning real estate.

Re: LDS Inc buys Kirtland Temple from Mormon rivals for $192 million

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:07 am
by Dr. Sunstoned
To convert the Kirtland Temple into a modern functioning temple will require a major renovation. The original temple was built years before Joseph Smith was sufficiently versed in Masonic ritual to concoct his own version.

Re: LDS Inc buys Kirtland Temple from Mormon rivals for $192 million

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:25 am
by bobloblaw
I don’t think the plan will be to covert the Kirtland temple into a functioning temple for the modern endowment. The temple is a National Historic Landmark and likely will be preserved as is.

Re: LDS Inc buys Kirtland Temple from Mormon rivals for $192 million

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:52 am
by Rick Grunder
Apostle Lach Mackay's short but powerful video clip posted today on Community of Christ's website may help us feel the dilemma they have faced in recent years, and their direction to lean forward. Or as prophet-president designate Stassi Cramm signs all her emails, "Onward!" . . .

https://s3.amazonaws.com/account-media/ ... 032024.mp4

Please watch this.

Rick

Re: LDS Inc buys Kirtland Temple from Mormon rivals for $192 million

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:48 am
by Markk
bobloblaw wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:25 am
I don’t think the plan will be to covert the Kirtland temple into a functioning temple for the modern endowment. The temple is a National Historic Landmark and likely will be preserved as is.
Being on the register as a National Landmark does not necessarily mean it can't be used as a Temple, in fact I am almost certain it could. I just wonder if it was part of the sales agreement between the two parties? I have been in Historic preservation for almost three decades and have worked on several California Missions, most recently the San Gabriel Mission after a fire, and they hold services most everyday there and it is part of the LA diocese.

But you're correct that holding a service and converting are two different things. Once on the register the site is bound by the Secretary of Interior Guidelines for historic preservation. Which means that other than for fire, life, safety...it is almost impossible to change anything for adaptive reuse. But, it does not mean they cannot build a Temple for use, next to it on the same property or close by.