Does anyone actually BELIEVE?

[nowacatholic]

Full disclosure: I am a PIMO and this post is NOT a troll. Rather, it's a sincere post.

I'd like to get responses from PIMI. Do you truly, actually BELIEVE? Do you REALLY think that Joseph Smith was actually visited by HF and JC? Do you think the endowments have a real effect? Do you think that, if you were sealed in the temple, you're with your EC for time and all eternity?

If you truly believe, why? How do you KNOW (not believe) that TSCC teaches the truth?

If you don't believe and are are still in TSCC, why? Is it family reasons? Friends? Social connections of another sort? What shook your faith to its very core? Was it the CES Letter? If so, what spoke to you there? Was it prayer? Was it something else?

For me, it was the CES Letter. It is scholarly and well thought out with references. I read the letter twice before it really got to me. It, more than anything, let me out the door. But I still have to go because my wife makes me go. One of these days, I'm going to stand up for myself and go to Sunday Mass to see what she does next.

There are so many things in the CES Letter that expose the truth, but I'll point out the first thing that got me out the door. The Book of Mormon speaks of horses, but they didn't exist at the time and place that the book was set in. Horses didn't show up for many, many years. That's just one example out of many.

Yes, I owe my new religious life to the CES Letter and the ONLY reason my name is still on the books is because, at the time I stopped going, my wife threatened that she'd leave me and take DD with me if I actually formally resigned.

Sigh.

[Imwashingmypirate]

I thought you said she goes to Sunday mass sometimes?

What's a PIMO and PIMI?

Don't know what all the acronyms are.

[Everybody Wang Chung]

I thought you said she goes to Sunday mass sometimes?

What's a PIMO and PIMI?

Don't know what all the acronyms are.

PIMO = Physically In Mentally Out

PIMI = Physically In Mentally In

DD = Dear Daughter

[drumdude]

Physically In, Mentally Out (PIMO)
Physically In, Mentally In (PIMI)

In other words, someone who attends but doesn’t believe, and someone who attends and does believe.

This board has very few faithful members. I can’t think of any who are active at the moment, but I do hope they chime in.

[Imwashingmypirate]

Thanks.

[nowacatholic]

I thought you said she goes to Sunday mass sometimes?

What's a PIMO and PIMI?

Don't know what all the acronyms are.

She does, very rarely. She wanted to see a Midnight Mass and she wanted to see the first Lent Mass, but she whines that the pews are hard and that the incense gives her a rash. Neither of those things are true, but she's my D W and she's certainly old enough to go to Mass or not. She's more concerned, she said, with the possibility of running into someone from TSCC there. Hmmmm.

[huckelberry]

Sorry, what in the world is TSCC?

[Res Ipsa]

Sorry, what in the world is TSCC?

This So-Called Church.

[huckelberry]

Sorry, what in the world is TSCC?

This So-Called Church.

oh, ok , thanks

[Res Ipsa]

This So-Called Church.

oh, ok , thanks

The exmo community has TMA.