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Isn’t the difference kind of obvious? I would consider Bundy mostly indecent.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:31 amBut do you assess them as “relatively decent” individuals in the same way that you have assessed Brigham Young to be “relatively decent” individual. If not, what is the difference you’re seeing?
I’m interested in hearing what you see as the the material differences between Brigham Young, and Bundy & Hussein.Kishkumen wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:04 amIsn’t the difference kind of obvious?I Have Questions wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:31 amBut do you assess them as “relatively decent” individuals in the same way that you have assessed Brigham Young to be “relatively decent” individual. If not, what is the difference you’re seeing?
Well, Bundy was a serial killer. Right? It is hard to find a more flawed and indecent human being than a serial killer, who violates the most basic principles of mutual social obligation.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:50 amI’m interested in hearing what you see as the the material differences between Brigham Young, and Bundy & Hussein.
Brigham Young was responsible for killing many more people than Bundy. What about the Hussein comparison?Kishkumen wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:07 pmWell, Bundy was a serial killer. Right? It is hard to find a more flawed and indecent human being than a serial killer, who violates the most basic principles of mutual social obligation.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:50 amI’m interested in hearing what you see as the the material differences between Brigham Young, and Bundy & Hussein.
Let’s stick with Bundy. Are you saying that all deaths are morally equal? That the serial killer and the soldier both cause death and are therefore moral equals?I Have Questions wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:09 pmBrigham Young was responsible for killing many more people than Bundy.
The Fort Utah massacre is classed as “mass murder”.Kishkumen wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:52 pmLet’s stick with Bundy. Are you saying that all deaths are morally equal? That the serial killer and the soldier both cause death and are therefore moral equals?I Have Questions wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:09 pmBrigham Young was responsible for killing many more people than Bundy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_at_Fort_Utah“Previous to the massacre the Timpanogos people initially tolerated the new presence of the settlers from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) who had only recently begun moving south into Utah Valley in the past year from the main settlement in the Salt Lake Valley. The two groups enjoyed some moments of mutual friendship. However, after a Timpanogos man (called Old Bishop) stole an item of clothing from an LDS settler, three LDS men retaliated by murdering him.[5]
A group of Timpanogos people responded to the murder by stealing around 50 cattle. Settlers in Fort Utah petitioned leaders in Salt Lake City to go to war with the group. Isaac Higbee, Parley P. Pratt and Willard Richards convinced Brigham Young to exterminate any Timpanogos hostile to the Mormon settlement. Young sent the Nauvoo Legion down with Captain George D. Grant and later sent General Daniel H. Wells to lead the army. After the Timpanogos defended themselves from within their village and an abandoned cabin, they fled their camp. The Mormons pursued the Timpanogos people from Chief Old Elk's tribe and killed any other Timpanogos people they found in the valley.
BY's crushed glass mixed in flour leaves a type of bite mark I suppose. Plus, If I recall correctly Bundy hid body parts. BY mounted the heads of victims on spikes as a warning.