Re: Kirton McConkie's Randy Austin called as Area Seventy
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:50 pm
I know Randy Austin (not well--met him when I was in law school). Total douche.
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I dropped into the local chapel for the first session of general conference and manifested my opposition. Philosophical question: if an opposing vote is made in an empty chapel and no one is around to see it, is it recorded in Salt Lake City?
Funny you should bring that up, Tom, as I have a similar question. If an opposing vote is made in a full chapel and everyone sees it, is it recorded in Salt Lake City?Tom wrote:I dropped into the local chapel for the first session of general conference and manifested my opposition. Philosophical question: if an opposing vote is made in an empty chapel and no one is around to see it, is it recorded in Salt Lake City?
I believe the answer is yes. According to substance theory, a substance is distinct from its properties, while according to bundle theory, an object is merely its sense data. I don’t understand either theory, having completed a single philosophy class during my undistinguished academic career and lacking time today to digest the associated Wikipedia entries. In any case, as I see it, the definition of an opposing vote, simplified, is a raised arm from an individual when a church leader intones that any opposed to a sustaining may manifest it. Thus understood, an opposing vote will be recorded in Salt Lake City even if nobody saw it, simply because it could have been seen if the presiding officer was paying attention to the individuals sitting in the back of the chapel. I do recognize that the church rejects this theory (Elder McConkie famously called it one of the seven deadly theories), and the church tries to avoid the conundrum entirely by simply asking the dissenter to contact their stake president. Nevertheless, it seems entirely apparent that if an opposing vote is made in a full chapel and everyone sees, it will be recorded in Salt Lake City.Gadianton wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:58 pmFunny you should bring that up, Tom, as I have a similar question. If an opposing vote is made in a full chapel and everyone sees it, is it recorded in Salt Lake City?Tom wrote:I dropped into the local chapel for the first session of general conference and manifested my opposition. Philosophical question: if an opposing vote is made in an empty chapel and no one is around to see it, is it recorded in Salt Lake City?
Good on you, brother. Much respect.
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A good question. The only person who I know of who may know the answer is the proprietor of a certain blog on the Internet that trades in pseudoscience and nonsense. If this person carefully recorded the name of "Frenchy" as it appeared on his tombstone such that he could submit it for temple work for the dead, then maybe he will tell you if you ask him.
Peterson desperately wanted “Frenchy” to die so that he could be reunited with his already-deceased wife. Yet in his comments about conference…Gadianton wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:24 pmA good question. The only person who I know of who may know the answer is the proprietor of a certain blog on the Internet that trades in pseudoscience and nonsense. If this person carefully recorded the name of "Frenchy" as it appeared on his tombstone such that he could submit it for temple work for the dead, then maybe he will tell you if you ask him.
However, something tells me he just let it go and said, "who cares, the work will get done in the millennium, I've got a plane to catch. " In that case, there is little chance you will ever find out who Frenchy was.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... -mark.htmlI expect that I am not the only person today who was impressed by the powerful and remarkable testimony of President Jeffrey R. Holland. I’m so very grateful that he is still with us.