A Brief Homily For The Purposes Of Ministrations To Daniel Peterson.

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DrStakhanovite wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:27 pm
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Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:26 pm
But I just wanted to say, if that is your normal writing style, then you have the most beautiful writing I've seen.
Thank you for the compliment and I have to say, I'm surprised to see a reply from you. When I first became active here so many years ago, I recall seeing your original “Im Washing My Pirate” account. I think you had just gone inactive and we never really interacted, but it is neat to see you return all these years later.

I do these kinda posts every now and then as a kind of catharsis. They are meant to be over the top with purple prose, pedantic, and wildly implausible. It is just me screaming into the ether.
:) aww.

Well, very beautiful. Do you write books?
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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:06 pm
Talk about a greeting that knocks it out of the park!
How else can I signal to fellow travelers? Between you, me, and this thread, that first image is me trying to flush out a certain professor who enjoys teaching from the backyard; I’ve begun to suspect he might have actually constructed a golem in that very backyard and won’t acknowledge it.

As it should be I guess.

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Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:07 am
Thank you this illuminating post, Dr. Stak. I always love revisiting the mighty thoughts of our conservator reipublicae, Cicero. I should think that his wisdom here would be attractive to many Mormons.
I should think his wisdom ought to be attractive to so many, including Mormons. The way the history of Philosophy is taught here in the English speaking world does a disservice to the entire discipline. Usually you spend a lot of time with philosophers active during the Classical Greek period and then skip right over Hellenism and into Christian writers in late antiquity.

Stoicism and Cynicism were robust and viable rivals of early Christianity and in my opinion shaped it in profound ways. I’m of the belief that it is hard to properly understand Paul’s view of marriage preserved in the New Testament without understanding the debate between Stoics and Cynics on that very topic.

Platonism was for the elites, Stoicism is for the streets.
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DrStakhanovite wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:37 pm
Usually you spend a lot of time with philosophers active during the Classical Greek period and then skip right over Hellenism and into Christian writers in late antiquity.

Stoicism and Cynicism were robust and viable rivals of early Christianity and in my opinion shaped it in profound ways. I’m of the belief that it is hard to properly understand Paul’s view of marriage preserved in the New Testament without understanding the debate between Stoics and Cynics on that very topic.

Platonism was for the elites, Stoicism is for the streets.
DrStakhonovite, for two, perhaps five seconds I thought this comment a cheap dismissal of Paul. Then I realized you are certainly correct.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:06 pm
Talk about a greeting that knocks it out of the park!
DrStakhanovite wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:37 pm
How else can I signal to fellow travelers? Between you, me, and this thread, that first image is me trying to flush out a certain professor who enjoys teaching from the backyard; I’ve begun to suspect he might have actually constructed a golem in that very backyard and won’t acknowledge it.
Huh. I totally misread this image, then.

Since it's a painting of Rabbi Loew ben Bezalel of Prague instructing his golem to protect the Jews of the city, I took it to represent one of the fifteen placing a slip of paper under Daniel's tongue. In this reading, perhaps Dr Peterson is being urged by the apostle Neal Maxwell to protect the Brighamites from any slam dunks--and to use whatever means are necessary to do so.
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DrStakhanovite wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:27 pm
IWMP wrote:
Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:26 pm
But I just wanted to say, if that is your normal writing style, then you have the most beautiful writing I've seen.
Thank you for the compliment and I have to say, I'm surprised to see a reply from you. When I first became active here so many years ago, I recall seeing your original “Im Washing My Pirate” account. I think you had just gone inactive and we never really interacted, but it is neat to see you return all these years later.

I do these kinda posts every now and then as a kind of catharsis. They are meant to be over the top with purple prose, pedantic, and wildly implausible. It is just me screaming into the ether.
It's strange... I didn't consciously stop visiting the board. I think I dissociated for years. I actually forgot. Woke up one day and was like HTF did I get here? Suddenly back in the driver's seat of my body. I just autopiloted for years.
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DrStakhanovite wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:37 pm
I should think his wisdom ought to be attractive to so many, including Mormons. The way the history of Philosophy is taught here in the English speaking world does a disservice to the entire discipline. Usually you spend a lot of time with philosophers active during the Classical Greek period and then skip right over Hellenism and into Christian writers in late antiquity.

Stoicism and Cynicism were robust and viable rivals of early Christianity and in my opinion shaped it in profound ways. I’m of the belief that it is hard to properly understand Paul’s view of marriage preserved in the New Testament without understanding the debate between Stoics and Cynics on that very topic.

Platonism was for the elites, Stoicism is for the streets.
Don't leave out Epicureanism. In Lukian's Alexander, the False Prophet, the author depicts the three major competing factions on the south coast of the Black Sea as Christians, Epicureans, and regular Hellenes. The Epicureans are counted among Alexander's enemies! The author doesn't seem to like them that much either, even though his work is a send-up of Alexander.
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Morley wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:10 pm
Huh. I totally misread this image, then.
Morley! I had no idea you were using that painting as an avatar, lol. I quite your interpretation is going by the way.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:52 pm
Don't leave out Epicureanism. In Lukian's Alexander, the False Prophet, the author depicts the three major competing factions on the south coast of the Black Sea as Christians, Epicureans, and regular Hellenes. The Epicureans are counted among Alexander's enemies! The author doesn't seem to like them that much either, even though his work is a send-up of Alexander.
An excellent inclusion! My working knowledge of Lukian is sub-par, so much to read with so little hours.
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