Dan Peterson’s lunch

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I Have Questions
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Marcus wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:59 pm
Did Smith ever say, himself, in a statement, exactly how heavy or what shape and size the plates were? Not a remembrance by someone else long after the fact, but at the time? Specifically by him?

(I apologize for not knowing my apologetics better, here's where I know our angel grindael would write me a book answering the question, may he rest in peace!!! :D :D :D )
Smith did not provide his own published description of the plates until 1842, when he said in a letter that "each plate was six inches [15 cm] wide and eight inches [20 cm] long, and not quite so thick as common tin. They were ... bound together in a volume, as the leaves of a book, with three rings running through the whole. The volume was something near six inches [15 cm] in thickness".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_plates
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I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:46 pm
Marcus wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:59 pm
Did Smith ever say, himself, in a statement, exactly how heavy or what shape and size the plates were? Not a remembrance by someone else long after the fact, but at the time? Specifically by him?

(I apologize for not knowing my apologetics better, here's where I know our angel grindael would write me a book answering the question, may he rest in peace!!! :D :D :D )
Smith did not provide his own published description of the plates until 1842, when he said in a letter that "each plate was six inches [15 cm] wide and eight inches [20 cm] long, and not quite so thick as common tin. They were ... bound together in a volume, as the leaves of a book, with three rings running through the whole. The volume was something near six inches [15 cm] in thickness".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_plates
Thank you, IHQ! So, this description came after the story about running through the forest being chased?
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It occurs to me that there's an aspect of running with the plates, jumping over logs, and fending off attackers, that I've never seen addressed.

Even allowing for JSJr being a strapping big lad, and holding the plates close to his body, how did he manage this feat with only a dislocated thumb and other minor injuries?

How is it that a 60lb weight, in the form of metal plates bound together, caused no other injuries worth mentioning. Was not at least one side of his body a mass of contusions and bruises from the heavy weight rubbing and bouncing against it?
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Mormon God could have had Mormon write the entire thing in English, on paper. God could have translated the paper into heaven and translated the paper down into Joseph’s room during Moroni’s visit.

All of these are powers Mormon God had, but decided not to use. Instead Mormon God decided to murder Laban, have countless people copy versus of Isaiah that we already have (and weren’t written yet), carry these heavy gold plates from Central America to upstate New York, bury them to protect them from oxidation, and then have them sit unused on a table while a seer stone was used to “translate them.”

It all makes perfect sense to Daniel Peterson.
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drumdude wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:06 pm
Mormon God could have had Mormon write the entire thing in English, on paper. God could have translated the paper into heaven and translated the paper down into Joseph’s room during Moroni’s visit.

All of these are powers Mormon God had, but decided not to use. Instead Mormon God decided to murder Laban, have countless people copy versus of Isaiah that we already have (and weren’t written yet), carry these heavy gold plates from Central America to upstate New York, bury them to protect them from oxidation, and then have them sit unused on a table while a seer stone was used to “translate them.”

It all makes perfect sense to Daniel Peterson.
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The Book of Mormon - the Gold Plates were not necessary at all during the translation process, but they were nice to have nearby.

The Book of Abraham - the scroll was necessary to translate/or be inspired to write something100% unrelated to the scroll.

Kinderhook - the Kinderhook Plates were completely necessary to translate.

Book of Moses - Joseph just needed his copy of pseudepigraphal Enoch literature.

Totally makes sense. The way God works is awesome and totally not inconsistent at all.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:55 pm
The Book of Mormon - the Gold Plates were not necessary at all during the translation process, but they were nice to have nearby.

The Book of Abraham - the scroll was necessary to translate/or be inspired to write something100% unrelated to the scroll.

Kinderhook - the Kinderhook Plates were completely necessary to translate.

Book of Moses - Joseph just needed his copy of pseudepigraphal Enoch literature.

Totally makes sense. The way God works is awesome and totally not inconsistent at all.

If it weren’t so ridiculous, too many people would believe and too easily get into the celestial kingdom.

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Mormons - nice people, delusional when it comes to religion.

ETA - their money managers are top notch, but secretive.
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