Gadianton wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:41 pm
Doesn't mean they don't have powers, probably lower level though, upper level isn't going to let children play with real power. They need to be mature, old enough to drive so to speak.
The problem you face is that grading magical powers runs into the same problem of unfalsifiability as determining who has powers in the first place. As you restructure the criteria to beat James Randi, someone you consider a lower power will restructure your criteria to prove they have a higher power. The latest fad I read about is the breatharianism that I mentioned in my last post. Several of the millionaire gurus were in fact proven to not have powers by proving that they were eating the entire time they had claimed to be subsisting on air alone. Some magical claims are easier to falsify than others, and claiming to go without food for months at a time is easy to falsify. Of course, it never breaks their business;
belief itself is the true magic of this world.
Being a successful guru is about mastering bait and switch. Good bait is falsifiable. People are generally smarter than they appear, and very few are drawn to a subjective universe where they are God of their own world only, and can't use their powers to distinguish themselves from others. People are attracted to stories of real, actual gold plates. To a guru who has gone a thousand days without food. However, once a person has placed their belief, it may be hours or days or months, but eventually the switch comes, and the claim must be readjusted to avoid falsification. The student wishes to become the blackbelt equivalent of a magician, a master worthy to spar in magic with a Crowley or Yeats.
I know Crowley, he is one of my spirit guides, well not all the time more of an acquaintance. I am on good terms with him. I don't follow him but believe his basic true will premise, and respect the fact that he is a British Royal. I kinda believe somewhat in divine right to reign but thing is this only lasts so long otherwise it's not fair. Never heard of Yeats..., Gemini? Irish poet William Butler. Ok I like poetry. I'll read some. Reason why Crowley may actually have some power is his connection to the throne. Kings are in the afterlife too.[/quote]
Gadianton wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:41 pm
I don't dabble, this isn't for fun, this is serious. It's about self improvement,
Sure. But then comes the criteria to deter'ine whether improvement is really being made. To the extent that you are creating your own universe, there is no way to say you're really improving, even if the standard was your own recent accomplishment.
Objective criteria. Hmmm. There is I am sure. Peer review is a good reality check one of the reasons I found time to spend here. Hopefully my wrongness can be pointed out. Also I may want to write more professionally about some of these ideas and it helps to check with others in the public critique domain.
Gadianton wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:41 pm
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Dragon_in_My_Garage
I'm sure you've encountered Carl Sagan's dragon, but if not, this is a great exercise to think about when conjuring up a better tests than what Randi offers. I'm not well-versed in Randi's works, but from what I recall, Randi worked with participants to construct the test -- they agreed to the terms.
I have Sagan's book on my audible I haven't gotten through the whole thing yet thanks for the reminder. One of my favorite scientists. Agreed? Sounds like a trick to me. I get tricked. Keep in mind it hurts spirits to divulge the truth about the spirit realm. They do all they can to obscure it. Including tricking prophets who want to expose them. I'm working carefully through that trickiness.
Gadianton wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:41 pm
Again, the conundrum is the same mental gymnastics you do to protect yourself from Randi, are the same gymnastics other magicians will do to challenge your distinctions defining who are the children and who are mature.
Who are the children who are the mature. You may just resort to the Uno Wild Card of well, it all balances out, light and dark, it's all neutral ultimately, the children have an argument the mature do as well in balance. I call this the demon argument. A black hole of sameness, well if it's all the same to you it's all the same to me. It was, demon, for a blip, but now we are on to other karma, there is more life ahead, not just the death of sameness constantly. I'll point out that wild card more I'm sure skeptics on here are gonna pull it on me. In the psalm of INXS, New Sensation, verse 3 we read You will find out in the end There really is There really is no difference! I like that song, new sensation is like a new power or new trick accumulated. Hey baby I got a new aura how do you like that sensation? I purchased it from the power dealer, soul trade services by sacrificing a spirit baby (sounds like Christianity almost!) down your throat (myself, and astral dream body). Ok ouroboros, eat me. Same attitude Jesus had. Then I eat a ghost body in return and we are even. I'm not the same as I was though, but does that make a difference? Well I do like to keep my core personality an be recognizable.
I consider evil to be a maturity problem. Grow up black magicians and their gluttonous ghosts! Or just vore back to oblivion. Withdraw the yo-yo. Reel in the kite. Return energy to the source. We'll forgo creating you next time around. You were a mistake, and the universe doesn't need to redundantly make those. As Kurt Cobain esoterically put "dive in me" down my throat demon, not just me down yours, I can transmute you, just as well as you can transmute me ouroboros.
I like to nitpick, in fact I even had a guilt trip over was I thorough enough in my last post regarding what you said. Most people though criticize my long winded writing style, they want a quick cell phone text length comment. I don't think that way. I think things though the best I can slowly and carefully. I have been getting around to studying up on Randi again, and would love to chat about it. I read a quote by Stanislov Grof that said (paraphrase) "there is plenty of evidence for the paranormal in the scientific literature, the problem is they are just not looking at it". I believe what he says because I see this level of ignorance all the time. Not looking on the snake on the staff so I won't be healed from the snakebite. I mean c'mon all you have to do is look at it! Oh no, not me. I can't even look up the word kriya on the internet or some nonsense. What are those funny hand gestures on Star Wars? Oh, that's just imaginary. Ok, well then why do I have them? They aren't make believe to me. My ghost friends kriya as well. Kriyas go from a chaotic shakiness or crazy nonsense gift of undiscernible tongues to mudras and revelations, as transmutation of the energy progresses. Ignorance at this level is a real mystery to me and one of the reasons I am here, not to beat my chest as triumphant gorilla arguer but for self improvement of my own world view. I'm hear to learn, not just push my agenda.
You could be Gaddianton the mafia black magician criminal himself for all I know risen from the dead! Ok another one I think. Not afraid false prophet. You are a false prophet you know just like I am. We really shouldn't believe each other's dreamlands. Just like I don't believe Crowleys, even though he is a nice ghost and all. There is a flaw. A trick somewhere. Probably what you said about noticing that bait and switch. You're right well spoken. Any advice on how to see those better since that is how to get out of a curse?
I respect aura privacy and don't pry psychically so I haven't checked. Things I need to know are made known without me interrupting someone's privacy by scanning an aura. Or, maybe you were created from scratch as ghost friends and I have been experimenting with soul making, vore into ethereal spirit baby, unbirth is a mystery. elemental magic. Gollums. I've gotten as far a monster, apparition, no solid forms except in dream realms. Now I am moving on to twits, and how to take care of them. Those magician ghosts that think like Beetlejuice that they can offer to "take care of" the living, then "train them" in their after realms. Ghosts that decided magic is more important than ethics and they can just go around sacrificing humans just like we always have with old age, disease, etc for their vampire magical gluttony. What if they stopped doing this? Would humans lived to the age of a tree? It is possible I say.
I can turn a twit in to an animal, literally, not just an elemental shapeshift. A re-incarnation. Ok? That'll take care of you stupid ghost! Well, I do have counsel with more experienced than I on this topic I have to admit I am new at it. A skeptic writes me off yeah but where is the evidence for this at all? Well, I am gathering it, collecting it. I prefer non India sources. Mormon hints of many lives and deaths and worlds without end is intriguing. I read that Smith had 2 wives that believed in it. Believe is irrelevant to understanding, I don't know how it works, so there is nothing quite yet to believe or disbelieve. I have trainers that claim they know though, more than I do. I have spirit babies that are animals and plants as well. Adam-God. I mean Atham in Hebrew is Man, translated to English means Adam. Atman in Sansrkit is Man, or Adam, and Brahman, is God. Atman-Brahman. I see. So Smith was onto something once again in his peripheral nonsensicalness. Moksha in other words. Enlightenment. The Ghost friends actually think the Adam-God theory as stated my McKonkie is actually somewhat accurate as well! Go figure, older ghosts are so bossy sometimes, they think they should reign over us forever like Adam as our God. Well, I say, evolution proves otherwise, ghost. The younger generation is smarter and more advanced than the old, and therefore deserves reign over less advanced generations like the animal kingdom. Older ancestors being monkeys themselves. Should they be our kings and queens? King Louie? Sear Khan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAYvv7GeSSE
At 2:03 to 2:08 it is relevant to Randi. A man I find comical. We can share some laughs about him if you like.
Rules regarding not proving the paranormal. You see, I not only have to fight skeptics like you, I fight ghosts that think like this on this issue. I say fight but I am a nice guy, civil debate is better. I honor the highest logic. Logos, in the beginning there was Reason, says the Bible, and it created the Heavens and the Earth. Every little deity has to have polarities, didn't say just earth or the world, but certainly heaven is opposite of earth. Celestial and Terrestrial in other words. In Greek. Telestial? Oh that one is a magic word made up by Smith's spirit company. Smith Inc. Unless it means Telos in Greek, the end in other words, the last or lowest kingdom? Who knows. Spirits are smart with their tales and can provide "evidence" for the gymnast.
Let's have a gymnastic show regarding Randi and the like if you want. Many of my ghost friends are interested. We are going for the gold medal. We are a poltergeist (what a claim eh), although picky on our food consumption (how do you ethically hurt people for power question, partial answer same way to make honest money, and then followed by, well how do you do that?). We are not as bad as Cain, from the movie, well the second movie, for those Spielberg connoisseurs. He was evil because it costs to do magic. So I keep the tricks small, I don't sell other people's souls for them claiming to be my own in a soul trade deal. Mask off with me. Honest buck. Not robbing a bank so to speak to pay for a magical firework show. Siddhis are a by-product in the pursuit of truth, yet the temptation to sacrifice this pursuit for more siddhis (Sanskrit are paranormal powers, such as resurrection or materialization) is there for some.
This is what baffles me because I know I am telling the truth about my own personal perspective of my experiences, yet people like yourself claim mystics like me are dirty rotten liars. Con artist priest crafters that want a buck. I hear about these types, I see these types, but I've got some blindness in my understander or something I can't see it. Studying up on compulsive liars. Smith was taught to lie by the Masons? Well, I think like in the Gorrillaz video at the end it's more like the ghosts did. No sqealing remember that it's "all in your head".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V_xRb0x9aw at 2:54 Um yeah right. You have true prophecies on a regular basis and synchronicities and kriyas and THEN come back and tell me it's all in my head. I'm telling you that's a mask. I'm telling you modern philosophy including the scientific method is flawed, Randi sets up impossible parameters for ghosts to work with based on how they generally like to hide from view and remain in the peripheral only. Only to give a paranormal glimpse of proof now and then. They like to decieve the outer cirlce and give mysteries to their chosen. Seems like that's how it's always been. Lie to outsiders, tell truth to chosen. Or at least, outsiders get obscure riddles.
You have a bunch of miracles and then go to a "professional" who says it really is all in your head and then laugh hysterically at them. You are the one that is crazy doc. Worst symptom of your insanity, your unwillingness to listen to or verify independently anything I say. Extreme ignorance. Big ghosts play this charade to hide their magic.
Hey doc, have you ever heard of a shaman? Well in my years as a psychiatrist I have had a handful of "patients" that claim this, but this is silly superstition, don't you think. I mean, I won't check with the university anthropology department millions of years of this in history including in more than just primates. Or comparative religion and Carl Jung is an idiot. One department in the school won't communicate cohesively with another, that is the real problem. Well that's just not science they tout. Really, have you ever examined your methodology philosophically to determine if it is rational. Well, no, I wouldn't do that, it would hurt the feelings of the agenda pushers that trained me. We know what the scientific method is, it's the Truth! Ok. Write me off huh. I get this every time it seems. A stopping point where they stop looking, at the evidence. Snake on the staff, how preposterous. Getting them backed into a corner is fun. It does take a sign from god though. I probably won't be able to show convincing evidence of everything. A personal witness from the divine, like the Mormons claim, is necessary. Subjective, not just scientific everyone other than the experiencer type of philosophy, is where it really counts. Who cares what other nonsense people believe. Just be sure to see though it. With your subjective lens.