Kish on Mormonism Live!

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msnobody wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:47 pm
Excellent, as expected. For the record, I could have gone six hours. :lol:

One of the last LDS missionaries I interacted with stated, “How does she know all this stuff [about Mormonism/the church]?” I don’t think he even realized he said it out loud. You guys are the reason she knows all this stuff.

I think I may be a mo-nerd.

Yes, Jason, you should start posting. I have 7 minutes left to watch.
Thanks for watching, msnobody!
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Kishkumen wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:26 am
msnobody wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:47 pm
Excellent, as expected. For the record, I could have gone six hours. :lol:

One of the last LDS missionaries I interacted with stated, “How does she know all this stuff [about Mormonism/the church]?” I don’t think he even realized he said it out loud. You guys are the reason she knows all this stuff.

I think I may be a mo-nerd.

Yes, Jason, you should start posting. I have 7 minutes left to watch.
Thanks for watching, msnobody!
I like mo-nerd. :lol:
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2024 5:43 pm
I like mo-nerd. :lol:
Kish and the Mo-nerds sounds like a great band name!
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Kishkumen wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:01 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2024 5:43 pm
I like mo-nerd. :lol:
Kish and the Mo-nerds sounds like a great band name!
I like it. 👍
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Tom wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:34 pm
Great show! I was unaware of the history of the use of the name Kishkumen, so I appreciate the helpful background.

Reverend, have you read Jan Shipps’ comments on John Brooke’s book and the academic responses? There’s a chapter in her Sojourner in the Promised Land. She mentions in a footnote that Brooke’s editor related that he received a letter from BYU scholars chiding (Shipps’ word) Cambridge University Press for publishing Refiner’s Fire.
I’d like to read the book about Jan Shipps by Gordon and Gary Shepherd. She would have been around my mother’s age and raised near where my mother grew up, although in the back of my mind, I don’t think she lived in the area very long.
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Terrific episode, honorable reverend Severus Kishkumen! An instant “classic.”

I enjoyed hearing the reference to Professor Wilfred Griggs. I took a popular honors course he taught at BYU with Alan Keele, The Pen and The Sword. I learned a lot from the reading, not least of which was that my talents were not well suited to competing with the likes of Griggs and his graduate TAs in rigorous study of ancient languages, history or the classics. I earned an A, but it was the hardest A I earned as an undergrad. He would often tell stories about being in the company of other academics and feeling that everyone in the room was both more well read than he, and spoke more languages. That left me, someone who at the time felt proud of having read all of Crichton’s novels and spoke barely 1.5 languages including English, feeling a stone cold idiot. He was a good teacher though and I’m better for having taken the course.

Best memory of Prof Griggs: final exam day. He distributed the final to the class, about 15 of us. Gave us a few minutes to read the essay questions. Sure enough, it was a beast. And then Griggs said he would give us the option of skipping the final exam if we were already happy with our course grades. All but 2 of us accepted. I am still grateful.
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Dr Moore wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:33 am
Terrific episode, honorable reverend Severus Kishkumen! An instant “classic.”

I enjoyed hearing the reference to Professor Wilfred Griggs. I took a popular honors course he taught at BYU with Alan Keele, The Pen and The Sword. I learned a lot from the reading, not least of which was that my talents were not well suited to competing with the likes of Griggs and his graduate TAs in rigorous study of ancient languages, history or the classics. I earned an A, but it was the hardest A I earned as an undergrad. He would often tell stories about being in the company of other academics and feeling that everyone in the room was both more well read than he, and spoke more languages. That left me, someone who at the time felt proud of having read all of Crichton’s novels and spoke barely 1.5 languages including English, feeling a stone cold idiot. He was a good teacher though and I’m better for having taken the course.

Best memory of Prof Griggs: final exam day. He distributed the final to the class, about 15 of us. Gave us a few minutes to read the essay questions. Sure enough, it was a beast. And then Griggs said he would give us the option of skipping the final exam if we were already happy with our course grades. All but 2 of us accepted. I am still grateful.
Thank you so much, Dr Moore! I am humbled by your praise. Oddly, I only spoke with Griggs once. I visited with him in his office, and he was very welcoming and kind. What a brilliant fellow! I have only read one of his books. It was on the subject of Egyptian Christianity. I am jealous you had the opportunity to take a class with him. I, unfortunately, never did. I do the same thing sometimes with the final: If you are happy with your grade, you don't have to take it. Does save time with grading.
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