So in other words you don’t know if he did or didn’t see the movie. Originally it sounded very much like you were confirming that he didn’t. It looks like we’ve straightened things out.
It took a lot to get there.
Thanks.
Regards,
MG
A lot? I made a post that neither of them knew what they were talking about and that still stands. You want to plant your flag on the fact one may or may not have seen it? Go see the movie and then get back to me. You waste people's time here with these insipid, dreary, uninspired criticisms.
I’m done.
By the way, you can’t expect either one of those two, especially Jeff, to give a complete rundown of the ‘Fanny Alger Affair’ to use the lingo of the critics. Correct me if I’m wrong.
By “a lot” I’m referring to the fact that a number of other people were talking as though they had watched the conversation but it was apparent they didn’t. Especially one poster that recommended watching a seven minute segment where Jacob apparently ‘spilled the beans’.
There were some interesting comments about the fanny Alger situation in the exmormon subreddit that call into question the LDS position that she was Joseph Smith's plural wife:
[–]Beneficial_Math_9282[F] 82 points 6 days ago*
You're correct. There is no record of any kind of sealing ceremony with Fanny. Later church leaders just assumed that one surely must have taken place, and that surely Joseph Smith wouldn't have hooked up with her without divine approval.
Bless their poor gullible hearts... Ah Mormonism. Believing the line "It's not what it looks like!" since 1830.
These days, they just go ahead and claim that there was a sealing at some point. The church's official sealing date on record for them was the one done by proxy on 4 Apr 1899: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/perso ... s/KWJY-BPD
"The sealings of those named below were performed during the life of the prophet Joseph, but there is no record thereof. President Lorenzo Snow decided that they be respected in order that a record might exist; and that this explanation be made."
The original register (SL Temple Register Book D, page 243) would be found in this collection, film #184590:
Joseph Fielding Smith acted as proxy for Joseph Smith.
Bumped. I didn't know about the proxy sealing decades later. But I'm not surprised that it looks like LDS church has been covering up stuff like this since the beginning.
I am simply saying that the situation was reported and there was a response. No details given. Period.
Regards,
MG
Jacob does not admit to watching the video. He mentions a vague situation (cleverly hidden) where he said I think there is a spot where they claim prayers aren't answered (Templeton study). The comment section has many comments that ask Jacob if he had seen it and he won't answer. Because he can't. He has written (mis)Stake presidents to get people disciplined for not following church rules and produced videos condemning members for wearing pride flag pins while working at BYU. He can't admit to watching it so he is coy about it.
Precisely. When asked if you’ve seen a film, a simple Yes is an easy to give answer. That Jacob won’t answer Yes, and finds convoluted ways to avoid answering Yes (sound familiar?) informs us loud and clear that the answer is No. But Jacob wants to avoid the ignominy of his audience finding out he’s discussing something he’s unfamiliar with. You’re spot on.
My original comment still stands as a whole in regards to their critical analysis. Nothing from that video is useful in any way with regards to the mention of Fanny Alger as a subplot in a splendid suspense film. Who does a review with someone that didn't see it and not admit to seeing it also?
Mormon wannabe apologists.
1. Eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable. 2. The best evidence for The Book of Mormon is eye witness testimony, therefore… 3.The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is a type of evidence that is notoriously unreliable.