Peterson promotes the idea that religion prevents rape and suicide

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Peterson promotes the idea that religion prevents rape and suicide

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A common theme of items that have been retrieved from the Christopher Hitchens Memorial “How Religion Poisons Everything” File™ is the evils that are done by theists and theism. But what about benefits that the apparently ongoing decline of religion and religiosity seem to offer us? A pair of such potential gains — rape and suicide — forms the subject of this recent Hitchens File entry: Philip Truscott, “Rape, Suicide, and the Rise of Religious Nones,” Journal of Sociology and Christianity 14/2 (Fall 2024): 34-58:

Abstract: One of the most widely quoted concepts in late twentieth century criminology was the general theory of crime which proposed that insufficiency of self-control is the most important predictor of criminal behavior. The presence or absence of social bonds promoting self-control is an important element of this theory. This article argues that the decline of one important societal bond, religious affiliation, is impacting the incidence of rape. Since the 2010s, there has been a positive correlation between the proportion of the population declaring no religious affiliation (the “None” rate) in the 50 USA states and the campus rape rate. This correlation was significant in the four years from 2016 (r=0.464, p.0.001) to 2019 (r=0.393, p.0.005). Beginning in 2018, the None rate in the 50 states also correlates with the rape rate in the general US population (r=.343, p. 0.015) identified by Uniform Crime Report (UCR) data published by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Was this due to a variation in actual crimes or in reporting rates?Recent data make the reporting rate explanation implausible. Furthermore, the UCR rape rate is directly correlated with another violence statistic that is not susceptible to reporting error: suicide rates published by the CDC. This research contends that suicide rates are a proxy indicator for male self-control, as three quarters of suicides are male. Rape perpetration is also overwhelmingly male. The correlation of rape rates and suicide rates in the USA rose from 2014 (r=.55, p. = 0.00001) to 2019 (r=.66, p. = 0.0000001). It is argued that declining religiosity is lowering self-control, and that this is a plausible mechanism driving both increased rape and suicide.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... ovies.html

He’s obviously shifting his ground from that of linking suicide rates to altitude. Now he’s found a random article that he’s keen to promote. I suspect quite strongly that he hasn’t read anything more than the abstract.

Here’s the author of the research paper bemoaning the fact people haven’t taken him seriously.
Truscott told The Daily Signal that he found it difficult to publish his results because many academic journals lean to the Left and attempted to poke holes in his research.
https://ussanews.com/2024/11/17/rape-an ... rch-shows/

How dare they cross examine his research and reject it.

Given the exposure of sexual assaults within Mormonism, and the constant covering up of such offences by the Kirton McKonkie helpline that’s been widely reported, I’m surprised he has the lack of awareness to put this on his blog.
1. Eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable. 2. The best evidence for The Book of Mormon is eye witness testimony, therefore… 3.The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is a type of evidence that is notoriously unreliable.
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The Cambridge University Press published a study in 2018 which concluded:
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The relationship between religious affiliation and suicide established by Durkheim may not pertain in societies where suicide rates are highest at younger ages. Risks are similar for those with and without a religious affiliation, and Catholics (who traditionally are characterised by higher levels of church attendance) do not demonstrate lower risk of suicide. However, religious affiliation is a poor measure of religiosity, except for a small group of conservative Christians, although their lower risk of suicide may be attributable to factors such as lower risk behaviour and alcohol consumption.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals ... 3D0F472A20#

Which seems a much less tabloid, well-researched study, which didn’t start with a religious based conclusion which was then attempted to be supported.

Also, it was published in a respectable journal.

The problem with these measures is that they examine the offended against, rather than the offenders. Perhaps a better study would be to research the religiosity of offenders. Because religiosity hasn’t stopped a significant number of LDS Bishops sexually assaulting minors. Peterson neglects to mention that.
1. Eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable. 2. The best evidence for The Book of Mormon is eye witness testimony, therefore… 3.The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is a type of evidence that is notoriously unreliable.
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The problem with these measures is that they examine the offended against, rather than the offenders. Perhaps a better study would be to research the religiosity of offenders. Because religiosity hasn’t stopped a significant number of LDS Bishops sexually assaulting minors. Peterson neglects to mention that.
Good point. And its not just Mormonism. Jehovah's Witnesses have it just as bad if not worse. A strong patriarchal structure seems to bring out the worst. The scary thing about religion is the degree to which there is no incentive to self-patrol and correct the problem. It's always a cover up. The apologists always have nothing to say about it. And the reasoning is always the same: the survival of the Church must come first. It's too bad this terrible thing happened, but God will make it right in the end, and what will the world do if the only repository of truth is crippled?
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There was a recent film that highlighted just how much religious affiliation helped to prevent sexual abuse. The film was called “Spotlight”.
Spotlight is a 2015 American biographical drama film directed by Tom McCarthy and written by McCarthy and Josh Singer.[4][5] The film follows The Boston Globe's "Spotlight" team, the oldest continuously operating newspaper investigative journalist unit in the United States,[6] and its investigation into a decades-long coverup of widespread and systemic child sex abuse by numerous priests of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Boston.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(film)

Systemic child sex abuse, but no, Peterson is citing a pseudo scientist to try and make the case that religious affiliation makes it less likely people will be sexually abused.

Here is a link to an article about the psychology behind predators seeking out positions within religious organisations:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... the-clergy
This is what sex abuse of children on an industrial scale looks like.

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"Pennsylvania Priests Abused Thousands of Children". August 14, 2018;
"Jesuits release lists of clergy accused of abusing minors," December 18, 2018
"500 priests in Illinois alone accused of child predation," December 20, 2018
"Catholic Church in Texas Names Nearly 300 Priests Accused of Sex Abuse" January 31, 2019
"Southern Baptist Church Sexual Abuse Database Reveals Hundreds Of Convicted Predators Among Leaders" February 10, 2019
"Vatican defrocks ex-US cardinal McCarrick over sexual abuse allegations" February 16, 2019
"Top Vatican official, found guilty of sexual abuse" February 25, 2019
"Nearly 400 Catholic clergy members accused of sexual misconduct in Illinois," March 20, 2019
"New York Archdiocese Names 120 Catholic Clergy Members Accused of Abuse," April 27, 2019
"2 Priests Convicted in Argentina of Sexual Abuse of Deaf Children," November 25, 2019
"Scandals, Compensation Programs Lead Catholic Clergy Sex Abuse Complaints to Quadruple in 2019," June 26, 2020.
"Ex-cardinal Theodore McCarrick ran sex ring for clerics at New Jersey beach home, lawsuit alleges," July 23, 2020.
“Slew of church abuse lawsuits hinges on state court decision.” August 14, 2020
"French Church abuse: 216,000 children were victims of clergy – inquiry" October 5, 2021
"The Catholic church’s sex-crime secrecy goes all the way to the top" - The Washington Post, January 25, 2022.
"New Jersey Diocese Agrees to Settle Sex Abuse Claims for $87.5 Million." The New York Times, April 19, 2022
"Maryland Finds That for Hundreds of Clergy Abuse Victims, ‘No Parish Was Safe" The New York Times November 18, 2022.
"Sex Abuse in Catholic Church: Over 1,900 Minors Abused in Illinois." The New York Times May 23, 2023
You can double that list by including LDS cases from the last five years. Peterson has made an error of judgement glibly posting that pseudo science claptrap.
1. Eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable. 2. The best evidence for The Book of Mormon is eye witness testimony, therefore… 3.The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is a type of evidence that is notoriously unreliable.
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Keep up with the times: Alternate facts, baby. Alternate facts.
"Apologists try to shill an explanation to questioning members as though science and reason really explain and buttress their professed faith. It [sic] does not. ...faith is the antithesis of science and reason." Critic as quoted by Peterson, Daniel C. (2010) FARMS Review, Intro., v22:2,2.
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