Is Mormon God a good example of parenting?

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LDS philanthropy put out a video a few years back called A Journey to Become. The video was about a wealthy man and his requirement that all his children have and maintain a temple recommend in order to recieve their inheritance. Here is some excerpts from the video.
If you look at our Heavenly Father's plan, he desires to give his children all that he has, but to qualify for those blessings, we have to become what he has become. I don't pretend to be like my Heavenly Father, but for my children, for them to inherit my estate, they will need to become what I am trying to become.
[They created a foundation, kids are on board of directors and decide where the money should go] That way it gives them an opportunity to learn correct principals, to grow and develop and IF they are worthy of their priesthood, they can then handle the inheritance and continue to do good. If they decide to exercise their agency contrary to my beliefs, then the option is that the entire inheritance can still go to the church.
This kind of conditional love is a direct consequence of Mormonism’s tiered level of obligations. Church is first and foremost even if it means sending your family into abject unnecessary poverty. On the flip side Marie Osmond said her kids get nothing. She claims it breeds apathy despite her nepotism rise to fame.
For those who haven’t seen it, the LDS Philanthropies video can be viewed here: https://vimeo.com/91878948
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Rivendale wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:10 pm
This kind of conditional love is a direct consequence of Mormonism’s tiered level of obligations. Church is first and foremost even if it means sending your family into abject unnecessary poverty. On the flip side Marie Osmond said her kids get nothing. She claims it breeds apathy despite her nepotism rise to fame.
“Honestly, why would you enable your child to not try to be something? I don’t know anybody who becomes anything if they’re just handed money,” she said.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 63364.html

Well, nothing except P. O. T. U. S. or King of England anyway.
I mean, I’ve done so many things from designing dolls [and much more]. I love trying [and] I wanna try everything. I’m a finisher.”
Would you see your kids homeless Marie?

I take her point though. You can spoil a child by not letting them learn through mistakes. I have learned the most through error, not success. But my dad never drowned me or set bears on me when I messed up. Nor did he banish me from living with him. Both me and my Dad are better fathers than God has ever been.
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I Have Questions wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:25 pm
Rivendale wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:10 pm
This kind of conditional love is a direct consequence of Mormonism’s tiered level of obligations. Church is first and foremost even if it means sending your family into abject unnecessary poverty. On the flip side Marie Osmond said her kids get nothing. She claims it breeds apathy despite her nepotism rise to fame.
“Honestly, why would you enable your child to not try to be something? I don’t know anybody who becomes anything if they’re just handed money,” she said.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 63364.html

Well, nothing except P. O. T. U. S. or King of England anyway.
I mean, I’ve done so many things from designing dolls [and much more]. I love trying [and] I wanna try everything. I’m a finisher.”
Would you see your kids homeless Marie?

I take her point though. You can spoil a child by not letting them learn through mistakes. I have learned the most through error, not success. But my dad never drowned me or set bears on me when I messed up. Nor did he banish me from living with him. Both me and my Dad are better fathers than God has ever been.
I wonder how her children felt when they read this?
Elsewhere in her interview with Us Weekly, she opened up about being involved in her grandchildren’s lives and poked fun at how much she “spoils” them.
Elohim does something similar. He has his chosen people. Marie’s excuse is she doesn't have to raise her grandchildren. Prophets get special permission to do anything judgement free which includes the decapitation of an incapacitated man. Prophets also are commanded to build up harems that include children, mother daughter pairs, sister pairs, and older women.
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I Have Questions wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:25 pm
I have learned the most through error, not success. But my dad never drowned me or set bears on me when I messed up. Nor did he banish me from living with him. Both me and my Dad are better fathers than God has ever been.
If Mormons are men and women trying to become Elohim-like, should Mormons emulate all of Elohim's parental characteristics?
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sock puppet wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:38 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:25 pm
I have learned the most through error, not success. But my dad never drowned me or set bears on me when I messed up. Nor did he banish me from living with him. Both me and my Dad are better fathers than God has ever been.
If Mormons are men and women trying to become Elohim-like, should Mormons emulate all of Elohim's parental characteristics?
That would mean I could cheat on my wife and simply tell her it is a test of her faith. I could beat my kids and tell them that it is a trial to learn something from. I could disappear for years and use the same reasons. And for the Crème de la crème I could create a torture room and claim it is locked from the inside.
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