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Tom wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2024 11:25 pm
"Two new articles went up today (Friday) on the website of the Interpreter Foundation. The first of them represents the 646th consecutive Friday on which a new article has appeared in Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship."
It’s interesting that this is the overarching priority for Interpreter - putting something, anything, out on Friday, no matter its quality, no matter its origin, no matter what it is, no matter if it’s been put out somewhere else previously. They have to have something to post each and every Friday even if they are picking between sub-standard fare. And because Peterson has lauded that posting schedule as something special, they now can’t stop. Hence why we get re-published things, book reviews, talks, blog post type stuff.

Bond was exactly right when he said Interpreter would end up with just blog-style postings. That’s exactly the current situation.
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Speaking of reprinting old content, I note that for a few years Interpreter reprinted a large number of chapters from previously published books. Such pieces carried an editorial note:
Part of our book chapter reprint series, this article is reprinted here as a service to the LDS community. Original pagination and page numbers have necessarily changed, otherwise the reprint has the same content as the original.
The chapters weren’t merely posted on the Foundation’s website; they were included in Interpreter volumes. It’s unclear why the Foundation chose to end this valuable community service. I know the Relief Society sister in Parowan was deeply disappointed by the move.

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“DCP” wrote:A helpful note for anybody who might find this difficult and bewildering: The piece to which I link above is part of our book chapter reprint series. It is not an article in Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship. Items in our book chapter reprint series appear on Thursdays. (Today is Thursday.) Articles in the Journal appear on Fridays. (Today is not Friday. Tomorrow will be Friday.) I hope this helps!
Still no defense that his blog repost is an “article”

I think this book reprint would make a much better “article.” But I don’t know Thursday from Friday.
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I Have Questions wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2024 10:31 pm
They seem obsessed with this board, and take seriously the points and objections being put forward by its posters. Look at the extent they’ve gone to in responding to your analysis of Interpreter’s “output”. Several emails which Dan devotes a large chunk of his daily blog to publishing. Why are they so bothered by what happens in the Great & Spacious Trailer Park?
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Perhaps it’s the Christmas season, but I get a warm feeling of magnanimity in the air lately. Even after reading this board’s favorite blog!

DCP just explained his position on the unbroken string of Friday articles. Specifically the holiday message 3 years ago. He had to rush because his invited author dropped out at the last minute. DCP explained his position without sarcasm, name calling, or vitriol. I admit I scrolled up and down several times in disbelief. :lol:

He even expressed some embarrassment that he had to “invite” himself to do something that traditionally he invited guests to do. That kind of humility and relatability is always endearing.

DCP isn’t a monster, he’s not even a bad guy. He’s a very normal guy, with normal foibles and quirks. But he has a lot of good qualities to admire, too.

Foremost is his work on interfaith relations. Specifically he has been a champion for Mormon-Muslim relations. He vigorously calls out any LDS bigots on this issue. It would be easy for him to stay silent, it’s not a huge issue, but he thinks it’s important to educate his fellow Mormons. I admire that greatly.

I also admire his pragmatism. He’s had to navigate a lot of politics while trying to run Interpreter. It’s no secret he dislikes Trump, but he can’t really flaunt that because so many rich Mormon donors absolutely love Trump. DCP knows which battles to pick. I think it’s a smart choice. There is no shortage of pundits online criticizing Trump, and the world will be fine with DCP staying silent. I’ve called him out for not being more vocal, but really he would just be shooting himself in the foot. You have to pick your battles.

He seems to be a great friend and family man. There’s no shortage of scholars he has worked with over the years who come to his aid when he needs them. They provided a lot of facts quickly when he was challenged on his Interpreter publishing streak. And he gets to spend a lot of time with his grandchildren, which (as a new dad myself) I can imagine feeling like the most meaningful thing you can accomplish.

In short, there’s a lot to like about DCP. It’s not as fun or interesting to point out all the areas where he succeeds. And a lot of us disagree vehemently with his worldview. I think he belongs to a corrupt, false, and politically bullying religion. I think the work he does to prop up the LDS church is ultimately morally wrong. I’d say the same of anyone doing apologetic work for Scientology, which I view as extremely similar to the Mormon church.

I’ll probably be criticizing him a lot less as my new family grows. It’s been fun to engage indirectly with his thoughts and ideas. He’s still the preeminent Mormon apologist, and the last thing I admire about him is that he engages critics as much as he does. I doubt any LDS apologist will fill that role when Dan steps down, and that will be a big loss for the church.

So here’s to DCP. Never say we couldn’t utter a kind word about him!
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drumdude wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:01 am
Perhaps it’s the Christmas season, but I get a warm feeling of magnanimity in the air lately. Even after reading this board’s favorite blog!

DCP just explained his position on the unbroken string of Friday articles. Specifically the holiday message 3 years ago. He had to rush because his invited author dropped out at the last minute. DCP explained his position without sarcasm, name calling, or vitriol. I admit I scrolled up and down several times in disbelief. :lol:

He even expressed some embarrassment that he had to “invite” himself to do something that traditionally he invited guests to do. That kind of humility and relatability is always endearing.

DCP isn’t a monster, he’s not even a bad guy. He’s a very normal guy, with normal foibles and quirks. But he has a lot of good qualities to admire, too.

Foremost is his work on interfaith relations. Specifically he has been a champion for Mormon-Muslim relations. He vigorously calls out any LDS bigots on this issue. It would be easy for him to stay silent, it’s not a huge issue, but he thinks it’s important to educate his fellow Mormons. I admire that greatly.

I also admire his pragmatism. He’s had to navigate a lot of politics while trying to run Interpreter. It’s no secret he dislikes Trump, but he can’t really flaunt that because so many rich Mormon donors absolutely love Trump. DCP knows which battles to pick. I think it’s a smart choice. There is no shortage of pundits online criticizing Trump, and the world will be fine with DCP staying silent. I’ve called him out for not being more vocal, but really he would just be shooting himself in the foot. You have to pick your battles.

He seems to be a great friend and family man. There’s no shortage of scholars he has worked with over the years who come to his aid when he needs them. They provided a lot of facts quickly when he was challenged on his Interpreter publishing streak. And he gets to spend a lot of time with his grandchildren, which (as a new dad myself) I can imagine feeling like the most meaningful thing you can accomplish.

In short, there’s a lot to like about DCP. It’s not as fun or interesting to point out all the areas where he succeeds. And a lot of us disagree vehemently with his worldview. I think he belongs to a corrupt, false, and politically bullying religion. I think the work he does to prop up the LDS church is ultimately morally wrong. I’d say the same of anyone doing apologetic work for Scientology, which I view as extremely similar to the Mormon church.

I’ll probably be criticizing him a lot less as my new family grows. It’s been fun to engage indirectly with his thoughts and ideas. He’s still the preeminent Mormon apologist, and the last thing I admire about him is that he engages critics as much as he does. I doubt any LDS apologist will fill that role when Dan steps down, and that will be a big loss for the church.

So here’s to DCP. Never say we couldn’t utter a kind word about him!
You’re a good one, drumdude. I doubt the Proprietor will will acknowledge or even take into account your kind words and conciliatory words here, but it’s to your credit that you shared them.

Congratulations on becoming a new dad!
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Tom wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:45 pm
You’re a good one, drumdude. I doubt the Proprietor will will acknowledge or even take into account your kind words and conciliatory words here, but it’s to your credit that you shared them.

Congratulations on becoming a new dad!
I’m a small fish in his very small niche pond. I hardly warranted any mention in the handful of blog entries he featured me in. :lol:

Thank you! It’s a new adventure, and I couldn’t be more thrilled. I’m kicking myself for being so afraid of taking the leap in my 20’s, but mid 30’s is not so bad.
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drumdude wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:01 am
Perhaps it’s the Christmas season, but I get a warm feeling of magnanimity in the air lately. Even after reading this board’s favorite blog!

DCP just explained his position on the unbroken string of Friday articles. Specifically the holiday message 3 years ago. He had to rush because his invited author dropped out at the last minute. DCP explained his position without sarcasm, name calling, or vitriol. I admit I scrolled up and down several times in disbelief. :lol:

He even expressed some embarrassment that he had to “invite” himself to do something that traditionally he invited guests to do. That kind of humility and relatability is always endearing.

DCP isn’t a monster, he’s not even a bad guy. He’s a very normal guy, with normal foibles and quirks. But he has a lot of good qualities to admire, too.

Foremost is his work on interfaith relations. Specifically he has been a champion for Mormon-Muslim relations. He vigorously calls out any LDS bigots on this issue. It would be easy for him to stay silent, it’s not a huge issue, but he thinks it’s important to educate his fellow Mormons. I admire that greatly.

I also admire his pragmatism. He’s had to navigate a lot of politics while trying to run Interpreter. It’s no secret he dislikes Trump, but he can’t really flaunt that because so many rich Mormon donors absolutely love Trump. DCP knows which battles to pick. I think it’s a smart choice. There is no shortage of pundits online criticizing Trump, and the world will be fine with DCP staying silent. I’ve called him out for not being more vocal, but really he would just be shooting himself in the foot. You have to pick your battles.

He seems to be a great friend and family man. There’s no shortage of scholars he has worked with over the years who come to his aid when he needs them. They provided a lot of facts quickly when he was challenged on his Interpreter publishing streak. And he gets to spend a lot of time with his grandchildren, which (as a new dad myself) I can imagine feeling like the most meaningful thing you can accomplish.

In short, there’s a lot to like about DCP. It’s not as fun or interesting to point out all the areas where he succeeds. And a lot of us disagree vehemently with his worldview. I think he belongs to a corrupt, false, and politically bullying religion. I think the work he does to prop up the LDS church is ultimately morally wrong. I’d say the same of anyone doing apologetic work for Scientology, which I view as extremely similar to the Mormon church.

I’ll probably be criticizing him a lot less as my new family grows. It’s been fun to engage indirectly with his thoughts and ideas. He’s still the preeminent Mormon apologist, and the last thing I admire about him is that he engages critics as much as he does. I doubt any LDS apologist will fill that role when Dan steps down, and that will be a big loss for the church.

So here’s to DCP. Never say we couldn’t utter a kind word about him!

Great post, my friend!
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Thank you, Drumdude. It is good to hear the positive side expressed. Negative observations about Daniel Peterson get repetitious and boring. Further it is the season for good will or to be reminded of the ongoing value of goodwill.
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DCP wrote:I’ve been shocked to discover that one of the most active participants over at the Peterson Obsession Board posted an entry there a few days ago in which, quite unexpectedly and unprovoked, and despite dutifully reiterating his disdain for my church and my religious beliefs, he declared that I’m not actually a “monster” or even a “bad guy.” His remarks seem to have pretty much sucked the life out of the thread in which he posted them, and few if any of the chief prosecutors there joined to endorse or even acknowledge what he had written. I suspect that they were quite disoriented by his comments. But I appreciate them. I may, though, need to recline for a while and put my feet up. And where are the smelling salts?
Cheers Dan!

It is definitely the season of goodwill, Huck! I'm getting to see it through the eyes of a child again, vicariously. It makes all the ideological spats between ex-Mormons and Mormons, Conservatives and Liberals, etc seem very small. We would all do well to spend less time worrying about things we cannot change and focus on the things right in front of us that really matter, the things we can absolutely change for the better.

I really do want to discuss DCP less. It's a very fair criticism that this place is beyond too obsessed with him, and I've played a huge role in that. I think was a mistake and I apologize to anyone here who hates reading about DCP so much. I'm also more than a little relieved that the Rosebud stuff may finally be done. It's way past time for everyone to move on.

Hope everyone reading has a wonderful Christmas season.
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