Is the Church grooming its children to be ready for a reintroduction of plural marriage?

[Markk]

I was curious to see what the FLDS church teaches their children and youth is SS or a Primary type setting in regard to Joseph Smith and polygamy. I searched for teaching manuals or any curriculum that might touch on it, with no luck. Does anyone know if they use teaching manuals in the FLDS?

I did find a site where they had some used booklets for sale, but that is about it.

[drumdude]

I was curious to see what the FLDS church teaches their children and youth is SS or a Primary type setting in regard to Joseph Smith and polygamy. I searched for teaching manuals or any curriculum that might touch on it, with no luck. Does anyone know if they use teaching manuals in the FLDS?

I did find a site where they had some used booklets for sale, but that is about it.

They can't even keep their own website online:

https://www.ksl.com/article/3133419/fld ... -web-sites

They likely burned a lot of the materials once the government started coming down on them.

[I Have Questions]

A 30 years old man teaching a girl in her 15th year that God required Joseph, a 30 year old man, to wed a girl in her 15th year behind his wife’s back, would certainly put plural marriage into some perspective.

I have many LDS relatives with young children who will be taught this Warren Jeffs style of obedience. This topic reminded me, once again, that getting my children out of the LDS cult is the most significant thing I have accomplished. I have a second grandchild on the way now, who will be raised in a home devoid of this Mormon nonsense.

That’s good news. This latest initiative by the Church is really troubling. It’s going to brainwash impressionable young minds into thinking that it’s okay to be involved in sexual situations with an older man if that older man says that God has instructed it. It’s a predators dream. It’s as if the Church surveyed sexual predators and asked them what they would like to see the Church do to make it easier for them to get victims.

I’m surprised child protection organisations aren’t up in arms about this.

[Moksha]

I’m surprised child protection organisations aren’t up in arms about this.

I doubt they are apprised of happenings within the LDS Church unless they have a Utah office and I doubt such an organization would be welcome in the State. It does make you wonder whether the timeline for the reintroduction of polygamy has been put on the fast track.

Sometimes ideas are introduced as trial balloons to gauge the public's acceptance of such ideas. As long as female Mormon teens and adolescents are okay with the idea, then polygamy might follow.

[I Have Questions]

I’m surprised child protection organisations aren’t up in arms about this.

I doubt they are apprised of happenings within the LDS Church unless they have a Utah office and I doubt such an organization would be welcome in the State. It does make you wonder whether the timeline for the reintroduction of polygamy has been put on the fast track.

Sometimes ideas are introduced as trial balloons to gauge the public's acceptance of such ideas. As long as female Mormon teens and adolescents are okay with the idea, then polygamy might follow.

There are only two rationales I can think of for this brainwashing of minors about plural marriage. 1. The Church is preparing the way for its reintroduction in 20-30 years time. Or 2. When teen or young adult members find out about the realities of how plural marriage was managed, it sends them inactive in droves. It could be both 1 & 2 behind it. But I think it’s more likely to be 1, given the increasing imbalance between male and female activity rates.

[Bond]

I doubt they are apprised of happenings within the LDS Church unless they have a Utah office and I doubt such an organization would be welcome in the State. It does make you wonder whether the timeline for the reintroduction of polygamy has been put on the fast track.

Sometimes ideas are introduced as trial balloons to gauge the public's acceptance of such ideas. As long as female Mormon teens and adolescents are okay with the idea, then polygamy might follow.

There are only two rationales I can think of for this brainwashing of minors about plural marriage. 1. The Church is preparing the way for its reintroduction in 20-30 years time. Or 2. When teen or young adult members find out about the realities of how plural marriage was managed, it sends them inactive in droves. It could be both 1 & 2 behind it. But I think it’s more likely to be 1, given the increasing imbalance between male and female activity rates.

It's 2. Polygamy isn't going to be tolerated by the general American Christian community who the LDS Church have been trying to get cozy with or American society at large. I doubt modern women are going to sign up for it either. The LDS Church just wants to get ahead of the most head scratching things about Joseph Smith because they can't jettison Smith yet since he's the prophet or they would have.

[Moksha]

The LDS Church just wants to get ahead of the most head scratching things about Joseph Smith because they can't jettison Smith yet since he's the prophet or they would have.

So you think that the explanation that Joseph and the coveting Elders were forced into polygamy reluctantly by an angel of the Lord with a drawn sword will be sufficient explanation for members with an inquiring mind? Sounds a bit far-fetched, like something LDS apologetics would cook up, but it has worked for them before.

I would be a bit more skeptical and think those horny old goats were slavering for some fresh women would be a more likely explanation. "All holiness unto those with a satiated sexual appetite".

[Everybody Wang Chung]

I would be a bit more skeptical and think those horny old goats were slavering for some fresh women would be a more likely explanation. "All holiness unto those with a satiated sexual appetite".

[Bond]

The LDS Church just wants to get ahead of the most head scratching things about Joseph Smith because they can't jettison Smith yet since he's the prophet or they would have.

So you think that the explanation that Joseph and the coveting Elders were forced into polygamy reluctantly by an angel of the Lord with a drawn sword will be sufficient explanation for members with an inquiring mind? Sounds a bit far-fetched, like something LDS apologetics would cook up, but it has worked for them before.

I would be a bit more skeptical and think those horny old goats were slavering for some fresh women would be a more likely explanation. "All holiness unto those with a satiated sexual appetite".

I think they want to normalize it the same way Christians normalize stuff in the Bible as we get further and further away from it so they can ignore it. "Well it happened but it was something in the past. The distant past. Way back when. Back before Tiktok. Please don't make Tiktoks about Joseph Smith. Who is Joseph Smith? Was his name Joseph Smith? Let's focus on Jesus."

[I Have Questions]

When a predatory Bishop or Youth Leader wants to groom a victim the groundwork is now being done, proactively by the Church. They are officially teaching kids that when an older man wants to do sexual things with them, even if they feel it’s wrong, they will be blessed if they comply. That is literally the message of these lessons.

It’s like a predatory pedaphile is in charge of producing Church teaching materials and is designing ways to make victims even easier to groom.