The CES letter was popular because it was a PDF

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Re: The CES letter was popular because it was a PDF

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:03 am
I Have Questions wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:45 am
It was first published in April 2013, and then again in October 2017. It’s now 2025. Are they still in disarray? Where is this comprehensive and coordinated response to it that Peterson claims they would have produced had they had the time and focus?
In all fairness, L. Tom Perry really did have a manuscript that would answer everyone’s questions. He showed it to me once shortly after the Swedish Rescue.

Well, I actually saw it in a vision, with my spiritual eye. So, trust me, L. Tom Perry was speaking the truth and there really is a manuscript out there that answers every single question. I'm sure the Church will be releasing it soon.
Did L Tom write out that testimony for you to sign?
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I was a teenager before it was cool.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:39 pm
Marcus wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:49 pm
Did your spiritual eye see it from a slight distance, only briefly, where it was lying flat on a table? And really, could your spiritual eye distinguish between a manuscript and a paper? Maybe it was an "article" which, as Peterson has clearly explained, could be absolutely anything as long as you saw it on a Friday.
Well Marcus, over the years I have given at least four very different accounts of my experience/vision. Why did I recount multiple versions of my vision? Why are there so many major differences between them? Do these major differences suggest that I fabricated the experience, or is there a more likely explanation? Let’s explore what the Mopologists have said about the many differences in my accounts.

First, it's very important to remember that the main elements of my vision are still incredibly consistent. For example, in all my different accounts I was there. Most important, Mopologists say that when stories are told over time and to different people in different circumstances, then there are bound to be some differences between them. In fact, Mopologists have told me that the major differences in my vision accounts actually help support that my vision did happen, because they show that I did not deliberately create a memorized version of the story to tell. Makes total sense.

So Marcus, please doubt your doubts. There really is a briefcase with all of the answers. It matters not that the briefcase is now in heaven guarded by angels with flaming swords. I hope to see you back in the pews next Sunday.
Of course! I will be happy to stop by then and sign my statement, witnessing that I heard you tell me your vision, a statement which I am sure you will write out for me first. Or you can just sign it for me, that works too.
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While that's all well and good, I'm not aware of Everybody Wang Chung having significant leverage over Marcus. I prefer to accept a signature when the signee's life could be turned upside down by the document preparer if they don't sign. I think Dan would agree with me on that.
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I have it on good authority that both Hales and Peterson will be recipients of the 2024 Red Herring Award....
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