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Mormon Discussion Live: Latter-day Saint Insider Exposes Secret Surveillance!
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 6:18 pm
by Everybody Wang Chung
This was a very interesting video about a former SCMC employee's experiences working in the COB's highly secretive department.
The biggest surprise (and at this point I don't know why I'm surprised anymore) was the allegation that the church hires law enforcement to infiltrate wards with well-known dissidents to gather damning information.
https://youtu.be/y6lYzB-rdOg?t=9568
Just remember, this is not a cult.
Re: Mormon Discussion Live: Latter-day Saint Insider Exposes Secret Surveillance!
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 6:34 pm
by Bond
This was a very good episode. The trauma received second hand from having to read all those reports about child abuse and marital abuse hit home considering it sounds like they got no grief training in place not to mention then having to lie to bishops asking for help. That stuff stacks on on everyone if they have to deal with it day in day out.
Re: Mormon Discussion Live: Latter-day Saint Insider Exposes Secret Surveillance!
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 6:55 pm
by Rivendale
Kate was very careful but I wonder if she may have violated her NDA that she signed. She didn't give names but I would think the NDA would have something regarding disclosure of procedural information. Things like the annotation of member records for things like homosexuality, adultery and others. I wonder if there will be a take down order for that episode.
Re: Mormon Discussion Live: Latter-day Saint Insider Exposes Secret Surveillance!
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 2:39 am
by Philo Sofee
Rivendale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 6:55 pm
Kate was very careful but I wonder if she may have violated her NDA that she signed. She didn't give names but I would think the NDA would have something regarding disclosure of procedural information. Things like the annotation of member records for things like homosexuality, adultery and others. I wonder if there will be a take down order for that episode.
RFM is man enough, he'll just flip em the bird.........
Re: Mormon Discussion Live: Latter-day Saint Insider Exposes Secret Surveillance!
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:41 am
by Dr. Sunstoned
Interestingly, RFM still has his membership and Bill Reel does not. Their positions and messages to the public seem to be similar.
Re: Mormon Discussion Live: Latter-day Saint Insider Exposes Secret Surveillance!
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:22 pm
by drumdude
Most cults could only dream of having those kinds of resources and information on their members.
It’s heartbreaking that she got to see first hand how the sausage is made and it clearly had a huge impact on her.
Re: Mormon Discussion Live: Latter-day Saint Insider Exposes Secret Surveillance!
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:49 am
by Moksha
Rivendale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 6:55 pm
Kate was very careful but I wonder if she may have violated her NDA that she signed. She didn't give names but I would think the NDA would have something regarding disclosure of procedural information.
Kate was very scrupulous in not mentioning the gas ovens or the Deathstar. Neither Bill nor RFM asked any questions about the Kolobian invasion fleet honing in on Earth via the Temple Spire broadcasts. As President Nelson said, "Build the spires, and they will come."
RFM is shielded by his 2nd anointing from Church persecution.
Re: Mormon Discussion Live: Latter-day Saint Insider Exposes Secret Surveillance!
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:38 pm
by Kishkumen
It was a marvelous episode! I highly recommend it. It reveals some of the inner workings of the disciplinary process. Leaders whose names appear on disciplinary letters they don’t even know the existence of yet, and so forth.
Re: Mormon Discussion Live: Latter-day Saint Insider Exposes Secret Surveillance!
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 1:51 am
by Dr Exiled
Cojcolds is at war with SATAN. Anything is justified.
I listened to the episode last night. Interesting, great episode, but sadly not surprising.
Re: Mormon Discussion Live: Latter-day Saint Insider Exposes Secret Surveillance!
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 4:29 am
by drumdude
Dr Exiled wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 1:51 am
Cojcolds is at war with SATAN. Anything is justified.
I listened to the episode last night. Interesting, great episode, but sadly not surprising.
Not surprising, yes. But it’s so important that people tell these stories. It’s more data for folks to consider in joining/staying in Mormonism.