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Oaks confirms we have heavenly mothers.
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:34 pm
by Rivendale
https://old.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... t_we_have/
This is apparently from Brussels and seems legitimate. I don't know if this has been recorded from a leader in modern times and it seems to legitimize current polygamist sects while simultaneously hiding under the temporary commandments ruse. I don't think this will do well in public discourse. Edit to add direct link.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TaamQrharUA
Re: Oaks confirms we have heavenly mothers.
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:47 pm
by drumdude
It should be added to the wonderfully sourced list available here:
https://byustudies.BYU.edu/article/a-mo ... in-heaven/
Re: Oaks confirms we have heavenly mothers.
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:43 pm
by Everybody Wang Chung
Imagine if you told your wife, "I need you to have billions of babies, then we're going to send them to earth, but I've commanded my (male) leaders not to mention you....just me and they can never contact you or give thanks or credit to you for their existence, just me, but it's all because you are so special and sacred. Also, you are never allowed to contact or interact with them, because you're so sweet, special and sacred."
Makes total sense.
Re: Oaks confirms we have heavenly mothers.
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:18 am
by malkie
Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:43 pm
Imagine if you told your wife, "I need you to have billions of babies, then we're going to send them to earth, but I've commanded my (male) leaders not to mention you....just me and they can never contact you or give thanks or credit to you for their existence, just me, but it's all because you are so special and sacred. Also, you are never allowed to contact or interact with them, because you're so sweet, special and sacred."
Makes total sense.
Imagine if you told each of your wives, ...
Re: Oaks confirms we have heavenly mothers.
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:41 am
by Everybody Wang Chung
malkie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:18 am
Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:43 pm
Imagine if you told your wife, "I need you to have billions of babies, then we're going to send them to earth, but I've commanded my (male) leaders not to mention you....just me and they can never contact you or give thanks or credit to you for their existence, just me, but it's all because you are so special and sacred. Also, you are never allowed to contact or interact with them, because you're so sweet, special and sacred."
Makes total sense.
Imagine if you told each of your wives, ...

Re: Oaks confirms we have heavenly mothers.
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:43 am
by drumdude
I like the idea that we each have a different heavenly mother. This maximizes the sexual variety for the Alpha Chad Mormon God. Conceiving with the same woman for all 20 billion spirit children has to be so boring.

Re: Oaks confirms we have heavenly mothers.
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:24 am
by I Have Questions
This appears to be a recent, “covert” recording of Oaks. He looks and sounds terrible. When (if?) he takes over from Nelson his tenure won’t be very long. The Church has commanded people not to record The Apostles when they are speaking - because they know it usually ends up with an embarrassing snippet. Like in the case with this one and Oaks. Was he speaking as a Prophet, Seer, and Revelator, ushering in the idea of multiple wives (which he has already signed up to), or was he speaking as a man? You only get to find out later on depending on the fallout.
Re: Oaks confirms we have heavenly mothers.
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:53 pm
by huckelberry
I did not catch anything different than traditional well known LDS teaching.
Re: Oaks confirms we have heavenly mothers.
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:11 pm
by Rivendale
huckelberry wrote: ↑Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:53 pm
I did not catch anything different than traditional well known LDS teaching.
Except top modern Mormon leaders have not said it directly over the pulpit. In the recent past they seemed to have distanced themselves from eternal polygamy despite the fact the top two leaders are practicing sealed to two women.
Re: Oaks confirms we have heavenly mothers.
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:35 pm
by PseudoPaul
This is one of those well known problematic but still current doctrines that most leaders are wise enough not to say out loud. A big yikes on this.