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It’s not a cult, but it has some cult like features - detailed membership tracking
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 9:50 pm
by drumdude
The lord’s one true church on earth is a little Orwellian…
Apparently these are just some of the leadership tools available to those in leadership callings.
Re: It’s not a cult, but it has some cult like features - detailed membership tracking
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 9:59 pm
by I Have Questions
So they’re not just logging details of your attendance, they’re tracking who your friends are…that’s pretty creepy.
Re: It’s not a cult, but it has some cult like features - detailed membership tracking
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 10:31 pm
by drumdude
I Have Questions wrote: ↑Sun Aug 24, 2025 9:59 pm
So they’re not just logging details of your attendance, they’re tracking who your friends are…that’s pretty creepy.
Right??
Re: It’s not a cult, but it has some cult like features - detailed membership tracking
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 11:53 pm
by malkie
Church admin folks today are so fortunate! When I was ward clerk I had to do all this information collection manually.
Re: It’s not a cult, but it has some cult like features - detailed membership tracking
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:54 am
by Jesse Pinkman
That is pretty wild. I can hear the Twilight Zone music playing. LOL
Makes me curious what they say about me or other members of my family.
How were you able to get a hold of this?
Re: It’s not a cult, but it has some cult like features - detailed membership tracking
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:03 am
by drumdude
Jesse Pinkman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:54 am
That is pretty wild. I can hear the Twilight Zone music playing. LOL
Makes me curious what they say about me or other members of my family.
How were you able to get a hold of this?
An anonymous Mormon in a leadership position posted it to Reddit today.
Re: It’s not a cult, but it has some cult like features - detailed membership tracking
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:27 am
by Tom
drumdude wrote: ↑Sun Aug 24, 2025 9:50 pm
The lord’s one true church on earth is a little Orwellian…
Apparently these are just some of the leadership tools available to those in leadership callings.
Do you know whether these are
Covenant Path Progress Reports? (I am not making up the
name.)
Re: It’s not a cult, but it has some cult like features - detailed membership tracking
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:29 am
by malkie
Jesse Pinkman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:54 am
That is pretty wild. I can hear the Twilight Zone music playing. LOL
Makes me curious what they say about me or other members of my family.
How were you able to get a hold of this?
Nice to see you around in the TK, Jesse.
What is it that bothers you about this?
That it is systematic, and (apparently) official? That it's collecting information that you didn't know about and/or expect?
As I said above, I don't think this is fundamentally new - it's just that there seems to be an app for it, whereas in the past the information was collected and reported manually.
As a ward clerk, I took note of people who were "missing" for a while, and might ask the EQP or RSP if they knew about any possible problems, so that the appropriate assignments could be made in ward council meeting. I remember being asked by the bishop to check on people.
I remember finding out that a young guy who lived on his own a few blocks from me had been sick, with nobody to look after him. I, as a slightly older guy living with 2 of my children, took food for him, and looked in on him every day or so. I knew him mostly because we played volleyball together at church - that would make me a "church friend in the ward".
As a non-attending non-believing member, I have a fair idea what they say about me and other members of my family.
Re: It’s not a cult, but it has some cult like features - detailed membership tracking
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:53 am
by msnobody
In my non-LDS world this would look like Msnobody attended on such and such days. Holds the priesthood forever.
Re: It’s not a cult, but it has some cult like features - detailed membership tracking
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 3:18 pm
by sock puppet
malkie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:29 am
Jesse Pinkman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:54 am
That is pretty wild. I can hear the Twilight Zone music playing. LOL
Makes me curious what they say about me or other members of my family.
How were you able to get a hold of this?
Nice to see you around in the TK, Jesse.
What is it that bothers you about this?
That it is systematic, and (apparently) official? That it's collecting information that you didn't know about and/or expect?
As I said above, I don't think this is fundamentally new - it's just that there seems to be an app for it, whereas in the past the information was collected and reported manually.
As a ward clerk, I took note of people who were "missing" for a while, and might ask the EQP or RSP if they knew about any possible problems, so that the appropriate assignments could be made in ward council meeting. I remember being asked by the bishop to check on people.
I remember finding out that a young guy who lived on his own a few blocks from me had been sick, with nobody to look after him. I, as a slightly older guy living with 2 of my children, took food for him, and looked in on him every day or so. I knew him mostly because we played volleyball together at church -
that would make me a "church friend in the ward".
As a non-attending non-believing member, I have a fair idea what they say about me and other members of my family.
How would that 'friend' fact have come to be in the database?