New Five Part Series on Polygamy

[MG 2.0]

Hi all,
Faith Matters is doing a five part series on Mormon Polygamy. There may be some folks here interested in listening to it.

https://www.faithmatters.org/p/lets-unpack-polygamy

Enjoy!

Regards,
MG

[drumdude]

That's a lot of lipstick. If you wanna kiss that pig, MG, go for it.

[MG 2.0]

That's a lot of lipstick. If you wanna kiss that pig, MG, go for it.

It appears from your comment that you don't believe that 'more is better' when it comes to exploring some of these issues. Your mind is set.

For others this first installment in the series on plural marriage might be interesting in that the guest being interviewed by Patrick Mason is Laurel Thatcher Ulrich. Here is a short biography:

Laurel Thatcher Ulrich is a Pulitzer Prize-winning historian known for her extensive research on polygamy and its impact on early Mormon women. Her book, A House Full of Females: Plural Marriage and Women’s Rights in Early Mormonism, 1835–1870, offers a nuanced perspective on the subject, exploring the lives of women in polygamous relationships and their contributions to the LDS Church. Ulrich's work has been influential in understanding the complexities of gender relations and women's rights during the early 19th century.

One thing that becomes apparent very quickly as she is presenting her material is that she knows what she is talking about. She is an academic who has studied polygamy over many years. And not just Mormon polygamy. She is a scholar. At the very beginning she makes it clear that the historical lens does not always provide a sharp/clear view of what was actually going on, on the ground, so to speak.

I'm about half way through and am finding that she covers the bases and then some. I would encourage folks to listen to the series.

drumdude, I was saddened to read your rather cryptic and judgemental response. It sounds as if you've already made up your mind and that this particular issue is a pillar of your disbelief in the Restoration.

Regards,
MG

[Chap]

It sounds as if you've already made up your mind

Yup. I'm already fully convinced that it is a bad thing for a society if rich and powerful men can accumulate large numbers of women, thus ensuring that:

1. Young men in that society are inevitably going to find it impossible to find a partner (e.g, the 'lost boys' effectively expelled from Warren Jeff's church).

2. The young women accumulated by the rich and powerful will in many cases lack the normal experience of a full-time loving partner to whose life they are central.

[sock puppet]

Obviously polygamy is still a festering sore for the LDS--some 135 years after the manifesto--for them to dish up this 5-part apologetic for it.

[I Have Questions]

Hi all,
Faith Matters is doing a five part series on Mormon Polygamy. There may be some folks here interested in listening to it.

https://www.faithmatters.org/p/lets-unpack-polygamy

Enjoy!

Regards,
MG

Does this cover the rationale for a 37 year old Joseph Smith marrying and having sex with a “mere girl” of 14 years old?

[Marcus]

... you don't believe that 'more is better' when it comes to exploring some of these issues. Your mind is set...

...I was saddened to read your rather cryptic and judgemental response. It sounds as if you've already made up your mind and that this particular issue is a pillar of your disbelief...

Again, the troll trolls. The mental gymnast has said that more is not better, his mind is set, he's already made up his mind, particular issues are pillars of his belief, etc., etc., etc.. Every judgmental mindset he accuses others of is yet another projection from his own mind.

[huckelberry]

Hi all,
Faith Matters is doing a five part series on Mormon Polygamy. There may be some folks here interested in listening to it.

https://www.faithmatters.org/p/lets-unpack-polygamy

Enjoy!

Regards,
MG

Does this cover the rationale for a 37 year old Joseph Smith marrying and having sex with a “mere girl” of 14 years old?

So did Helen report that she had sex with Joseph Smith?

[Marcus]

Does this cover the rationale for a 37 year old Joseph Smith marrying and having sex with a “mere girl” of 14 years old?

So did Helen report that she had sex with Joseph Smith?

When a 37 year old marries a 14 year old, do you question the 14 year old about sex?

[huckelberry]

So did Helen report that she had sex with Joseph Smith?

When a 37 year old marries a 14 year old, do you question the 14 year old about sex?

She lived many years past fourteen but it certainly is not usual to ask older women about that. Best I know Helen did not explain. She may have or may not have had sex with Joseph Smith.