I’d be interested in hearing the Church lawyers explain the “loss” the Church has experienced as a result of JD titling his business “Mormon Stories”.drumdude wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 2:46 amMG 2.0 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 24, 2025 6:23 pmThis coming from someone who listened to many if not most of Dehlin's podcasts in his first four, five, or six years (can't remember now)...he' a wolf in sheep's clothing.
That simple. I don't need to write an essay as to why I say this. It just is. I have my reasons for why I give this simple statement.
And that's all I'll say. I realize opinions will vary.
I will say this, however. He, along with anyone else...including you and me...comes at life with his/her own presuppositions, inclinations, traits, etc., that lead in certain directions. That being the case I will have to give him the benefit of a doubt that he believes that he is doing 'good'.
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It’s not illegal for him to portray himself as Mormon. As sunstone says, there is more than one way to be Mormon. (Maybe they will be the next to be sued under Oaks.)
I’ve never heard an episode where he says that he represents the church. In fact almost every episode he says the exact opposite.
After two decades, the church goes after Mormon Stories
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Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Loss of tithing when people leave because of what they hear on the podcast?I Have Questions wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 9:48 amI’d be interested in hearing the Church lawyers explain the “loss” the Church has experienced as a result of JD titling his business “Mormon Stories”.
In any case, I hate these bullying legal tactics. It is a form of lawfare.
"He disturbs the laws of his country, he forces himself upon women, and he puts men to death without trial.” ~Otanes on the monarch, Herodotus Histories 3.80.
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Have there been examples of members who left the church directly because of Mormon Stories?Kishkumen wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 3:29 pmLoss of tithing when people leave because of what they hear on the podcast?I Have Questions wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 9:48 amI’d be interested in hearing the Church lawyers explain the “loss” the Church has experienced as a result of JD titling his business “Mormon Stories”.
In any case, I hate these bullying legal tactics. It is a form of lawfare.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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I have heard more than one person refer to the influence of Mormon Stories in their decision to leave. I doubt this would rise to the level of legal culpability for MS, however.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 4:11 pmHave there been examples of members who left the church directly because of Mormon Stories?
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It might also be that it's a symbiotic relationship between Dehlin and his listeners. In this survey we see that those that leave the church may have already had certain worldview and predilections beforehand and as they listen to the podcasts they find a common home/tribe that fits with their own biases, etc.Kishkumen wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 4:56 pmI have heard more than one person refer to the influence of Mormon Stories in their decision to leave. I doubt this would rise to the level of legal culpability for MS, however.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 4:11 pmHave there been examples of members who left the church directly because of Mormon Stories?
Regards,Current members look more like conservatives, but with a particularly high emphasis on purity/sanctity — something former Mormons do not stress much at all.
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It seems to me that the church has a valid case to go after an organization that has the word 'Mormon' in their name and is essentially acting against the mission and purposes of the church.
It will be interesting to watch and see how it all pans out.
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It will be interesting to watch and see how it all pans out.
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Unleashing the Pharisees to try to monopolize a major victory for Satan is an interesting way to start a new prophetic tenure.
I thought it'd be a bit longer before Nelson was kicked into the "speaking as a man" dustbin of Mormonism The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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Yeah, I think it stinks. Talk about schizophrenic regarding the name Mormon. In a just world, the lawyers representing the church would get their butts handed to them on a platter for taking on such a suit.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 5:32 pmIt seems to me that the church has a valid case to go after an organization that has the word 'Mormon' in their name and is essentially acting against the mission and purposes of the church.
It will be interesting to watch and see how it all pans out.
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No one owns the word Mormon.
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Members are not suppose to use the term Mormon and neither is anyone else? Looks like Dehlin conceded because his icons are changing. https://i.redd.it/cxvr5zlylf3g1.jpeg From blue to orange. Add this to the "why do people dislike Mormons file?" .....Next to Hitchens "How religion poisons everything” dossier.
What is next? Banning other people from saying CTR? How about fetch or fireside? What about calling or poophole loophole?
What is next? Banning other people from saying CTR? How about fetch or fireside? What about calling or poophole loophole?
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Go after!MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 5:32 pmIt seems to me that the church has a valid case to go after an organization that has the word 'Mormon' in their name and is essentially acting against the mission and purposes of the church.
It will be interesting to watch and see how it all pans out.
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That would be smash the printing press, Mormon tradition
I probably was not built from the ground up to accept such repression.
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I am not particularly a fan of Mormon stories but I respect its right in a free world to present Mormon stories. I would financially support resistance to outrageous efforts at communication repression.
I mean what kind of church would contemplate repressing peoples stories?