God can write straight with crooked lines.

[MG 2.0]

Over the years participating on this board, I have seen so many examples of this truth:

God can write straight with crooked lines.

I think it would be interesting to hear where others might come from as they consider this truth. First of all, are we willing to accept...if there is a creator God...that He would "write straight with crooked lines?" It would be interesting, just like in hopscotch, whether we can actually get to square one, or the first jump.

Obviously, I wouldn't ask the question if I didn't have an opinion. The problem is, if I present mine...as usual...folks will 'hop' all over the place simply trying to either make me look stupid or nonsensical, etc.

So, what are some of your thoughts? Hypothetically speaking, if there is a creator God, can/does He write straight with crooked lines?

By the way, this question can be used in conjunction with so many questions and issues that are brought up ad nauseum in regard to Mormonism, the apostasy, blacks and priesthood, current cultural battles, etc.

I'm going to stand back and watch, learn, and listen.

Regards,
MG

[Jersey Girl]

I want to know what you mean when you say, "write straight with crooked lines." I have an idea about what you mean, but I want to hear from you so I understand the intention behind the phrase.

Clarify that for me, please. I'd like to consider and participate.

With sincerity,
J to the absolute G

[Philo Sofee]

Over the years participating on this board, I have seen so many examples of this truth:

God can write straight with crooked lines.

I think it would be interesting to hear where others might come from as they consider this truth. First of all, are we willing to accept...if there is a creator God...that He would "write straight with crooked lines?" It would be interesting, just like in hopscotch, whether we can actually get to square one, or the first jump.

Obviously, I wouldn't ask the question if I didn't have an opinion. The problem is, if I present mine...as usual...folks will 'hop' all over the place simply trying to either make me look stupid or nonsensical, etc.

So, what are some of your thoughts? Hypothetically speaking, if there is a creator God, can/does He write straight with crooked lines?

By the way, this question can be used in conjunction with so many questions and issues that are brought up ad nauseum in regard to Mormonism, the apostasy, blacks and priesthood, current cultural battles, etc.

I'm going to stand back and watch, learn, and listen.

Regards,
MG

I hear this less as a theological claim and more as an observation about how history and human lives actually unfold. If there is a creator God, then working through imperfect people and messy circumstances wouldn’t be a flaw in the system, it would be the system itself. Expecting straight lines drawn by crooked hands may be the only way a world with real freedom could exist at all.

I don’t take the idea to mean that everything is justified or that mistakes don’t matter. Rather, it suggests that meaning and purpose aren’t automatically erased just because the process is flawed. Growth, learning, repentance, and even course correction all seem to require a world where things don’t unfold cleanly or predictably.

For me, the more interesting question isn’t whether God can write straight with crooked lines, but whether a world without crooked lines would leave any room for genuine choice, development, or understanding in the first place. So there is my two cents for ya MG.

[Gadianton]

I agree with Jersey Girl that a description of what you mean would help.

If I'm guessing MG's intent correctly, my answer is "Yes". Absolutely, the creator of the universe can write "straight" (coherent/true meaning) with crooked lines (messy presentation).

[MG 2.0]

Over the years participating on this board, I have seen so many examples of this truth:

God can write straight with crooked lines.

I think it would be interesting to hear where others might come from as they consider this truth. First of all, are we willing to accept...if there is a creator God...that He would "write straight with crooked lines?" It would be interesting, just like in hopscotch, whether we can actually get to square one, or the first jump.

Obviously, I wouldn't ask the question if I didn't have an opinion. The problem is, if I present mine...as usual...folks will 'hop' all over the place simply trying to either make me look stupid or nonsensical, etc.

So, what are some of your thoughts? Hypothetically speaking, if there is a creator God, can/does He write straight with crooked lines?

By the way, this question can be used in conjunction with so many questions and issues that are brought up ad nauseum in regard to Mormonism, the apostasy, blacks and priesthood, current cultural battles, etc.

I'm going to stand back and watch, learn, and listen.

Regards,
MG

I want to know what you mean when you say, "write straight with crooked lines." I have an idea about what you mean, but I want to hear from you so I understand the intention behind the phrase.

Clarify that for me, please. I'd like to consider and participate.

With sincerity,
J to the absolute G

I think Philo's thoughts are interesting. He may have made a good 'first jump' playing hopscotch. Remember, in playing hopscotch everything is linear...yet it isn't.

Want to take another jump sideways or straight forward now after listening to Philo?

Seriously, I'd like to sit back and watch the game from off to the side from different perspectives as I move around the hopscotch grid. Or is it a grid? Sort of, kind of?

Good first jump, Philo. Jersey Girl?

Regards,
MG

[Jersey Girl]

I want to know what you mean when you say, "write straight with crooked lines." I have an idea about what you mean, but I want to hear from you so I understand the intention behind the phrase.

Clarify that for me, please. I'd like to consider and participate.

With sincerity,
J to the absolute G

I think Philo's thoughts are interesting. He may have made a good 'first jump' playing hopscotch. Remember, in playing hopscotch everything is linear...yet it isn't.

Want to take another jump sideways or straight forward now after listening to Philo?

Seriously, I'd like to sit back and watch the game from off to the side from different perspectives as I move around the hopscotch grid. Or is it a grid? Sort of, kind of?

Good first jump, Philo. Jersey Girl?

Regards,
MG

Okay got it. I think...my thinking is going to be heavily biased by a book I'm currently reading that is way above my grade level. But what of it? I don't mind falling flat on my face publicly and that's just a good thing since I've done it repeatedly over the years.

Then again it seems to me that you've allowed us to clarify the terms for ourselves so there is that. I shall return.

(If you see me posting in another forum before this thread, it's just that I've got about 3 replies waiting in the queue. Plus it's Sunday. "I don't post on Sunday", said the lying hypocrite.)

[canpakes]

Over the years participating on this board, I have seen so many examples of this truth:

God can write straight with crooked lines.

Maybe related: The fastest way to any travel destination follows a curved line.

[MG 2.0]

Over the years participating on this board, I have seen so many examples of this truth:

God can write straight with crooked lines.

Maybe related: The fastest way to any travel destination follows a curved line.

Wrinkle in Time (!)

What does this mean in connection to "God can write straight with crooked lines"? What does fast/slow have to do with it, if anything?

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

I think Philo's thoughts are interesting. He may have made a good 'first jump' playing hopscotch. Remember, in playing hopscotch everything is linear...yet it isn't.

Want to take another jump sideways or straight forward now after listening to Philo?

Seriously, I'd like to sit back and watch the game from off to the side from different perspectives as I move around the hopscotch grid. Or is it a grid? Sort of, kind of?

Good first jump, Philo. Jersey Girl?

Regards,
MG

Okay got it. I think...my thinking is going to be heavily biased by a book I'm currently reading that is way above my grade level. But what of it? I don't mind falling flat on my face publicly and that's just a good thing since I've done it repeatedly over the years.

Then again it seems to me that you've allowed us to clarify the terms for ourselves so there is that. I shall return.

(If you see me posting in another forum before this thread, it's just that I've got about 3 replies waiting in the queue. Plus it's Sunday. "I don't post on Sunday", said the lying hypocrite.)

From reading your comments in the past...looking forward to it.

Regards,
MG

[drumdude]

If the Jesus of the New Testament is really the son of God, I expect Mr. Holland to be quite surprised.