Finally Breaking Up With King James: The End Of The Church's 200 Year Monogamous Relationship With The KJV

[Shulem]

Why isn't the NASB translation on that list??

Let's see if it corrects the Book of Mormon errors copied from KJV Isaiah:

Hyenas will howl in their fortified towers
And jackals in their luxurious palaces.
Her fateful time also will soon come,
And her days will not be prolonged.

The Book of Mormon sucks! Therefore, Mormons don't know the Bible very well because they read the Book of Mormon and the KJV to boot.

[Limnor]

Perhaps they just don't want members to be lazy?

So, yes, it's like they are saying that it doesn't matter that the Prophet Joseph Smith put all of this time and effort, from his all-too-short life, into "improving" the KJV for you: we recommend that you try to figure it out for yourself, thereby making it almost certain that there will be multiple interpretations generated in areas that Joseph had already resolved.

I think you are on to something, but I’m not sure the goal is for members to “figure it out for themselves” as an end state. I don’t have insight to the reasons for translation selection, but it seems more like the goal is for members to see the “ambiguity” for themselves—so that its resolution can come through living prophets and authority rather than being settled by the text alone. This isn’t unique to the LDS church, but the difference is in how Joseph resolved the issue through modern revelation.

Hebrews 7 is one example. Some translations seem to settle the ambiguity by making the priesthood non-transferable, while others preserve the silence.

“But he holds his priesthood permanently (aparabatos), because he continues forever.”

The question is whether aparabatos means permanently/uninterrupted, or non-transferable/incommunicable.

Guess which translation is preferable to the LDS church?

For me, the context seems to indicate that Jesus alone can hold the Melchizedek priesthood.

[Shulem]

In other words, in 1992, the counsel was to disregard the "Inspired Version" of the Bible - Joseph Smith Translation, a.k.a. JST.

In 2021, the counsel was to disregard the Joseph Smith Translation.

And in 2026, the counsel is still to disregard the Joseph Smith Translation?

Poor Joseph - all that effort to restore many important points touching the salvation of men.

It has been my understanding that because the translation was never published by Joseph Smith, was never assembled into a finalized form, and because the extant translation manuscripts—as well as the Phinney Bible used in the translation—were, until recently, in the possession of the Community of Christ (formerly the RLDS Church), the Salt Lake–based church declined to publish or fully use it. That situation has now changed. Salt Lake is in possession of all known translation manuscripts, as well as the Phinney Bible used by Smith and Rigdon (valued at a cool $20,000,000), following the recent $195.2 million transaction with the Community of Christ. Given that the church is led by a living prophet, I would expect them to complete the translation and publish it as the definitive version of the Bible..

The Inspired Version of the Bible (Joseph Smith Translation) for the book of Isaiah is the same as what's copied from the KJV into the Book of Mormon. So, whether you are reading the so-called Inspired Version or the Book of Mormon's account for Isaiah chapter 13, you will never come to know that beasts & dragons were really hyenas & jackals. You simply have to turn to a proper Bible version that the church now allows their members to read aloud in official church meetings.

The dumb Mormons are trying to catch up but in doing so will come to know the Book of Mormon was fraudulently copied from the KJV with very little variation to hide that fact.

[Shulem]

Where does this leave the plagiarised KJV Bible content that anachronistically appears within The Book of Mormon?

The church must account for the words "beasts & dragons" that were allegedly etched on plates via Egyptian reformed hieroglyphics thousands of years before Smith miraculously translated them by the so-called gift and power of God. How is it words from the 1611 KJV are the very ones that appeared on Smith's seer stone rather than the ones Isaiah actually penned?

Busted! Stupid Mormons!



Screw you, MG.

[Shulem]

The most reliable way to measure the accuracy of any biblical passage is not by comparing different texts, but by comparison with the Book of Mormon and modern-day revelations.

"Any biblical passage?"

That would also include KJV Isaiah 13:22 & 2 Nephi 23:22 with beasts & dragons!

The Bible, as it has been transmitted over the centuries, has suffered the loss of many plain and precious parts. ‘We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.’ (A of F 1:8.)

No! beasts and dragons was not and is not the word of God!

Please refer to a better translation of the Bible.

You guys need to get with the biblical program. You are way behind.

[Shulem]

Nephi could not have read "beasts" and "dragons" on Laban's so-called brass plates and neither could Mormon (author/abridger) concur, and yet that's what Joseph Smith translated! Latter-day Saints have been sold a bill of goods in thinking the Book of Mormon offers a premium look at Isaiah when in fact they are getting the worst translation on the biblical market today.

Nephi classified certain animals in the New World and even noted how there were two distinct classes of goats, presumably domestic and wild:

And it came to pass that we did find upon the land of promise, as we journeyed in the wilderness, that there were beasts in the forests of every kind, both the cow and the ox, and the ass and the horse, and the [1] goat and the [2] wild goat, and all manner of wild animals, which were for the use of men.

So what have inspired® LDS church leaders ever said to clear up this phony Book of Mormon translation? Nothing!

We need turn to those who can because Mormons are stupid:

Jackals will howl in their palaces
and wild dogs in their temples of delight.
Its time is close at hand,
its days will not last long.

Hyenas will howl in her castles
and jackals in her luxurious palaces.
Her time draws near,
and her days will not be prolonged.

[Brack]

Why isn't the NASB translation on that list??

Let's see if it corrects the Book of Mormon errors copied from KJV Isaiah:

Hyenas will howl in their fortified towers
And jackals in their luxurious palaces.
Her fateful time also will soon come,
And her days will not be prolonged.

The Book of Mormon sucks! Therefore, Mormons don't know the Bible very well because they read the Book of Mormon and the KJV to boot.

And there is also the issue of "Lucifer" in the KJV that was copied into the Book of Mormon, but it isn't within most of the modern Bible translations.

Isaiah 14:12 (NASB)
“How you have fallen from heaven,
You star of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth,
You who defeated the nations!

Isaiah 14:12 (NASB95)
“How you have fallen from heaven,
O star of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth,
You who have weakened the nations!

Isaiah 14:12 (ESV)
“How you are fallen from heaven,
O Day Star, son of Dawn!
How you are cut down to the ground,
you who laid the nations low!

[Shulem]

And there is also the issue of "Lucifer" in the KJV that was copied into the Book of Mormon, but it isn't within most of the modern Bible translations.

Isaiah 14:12 (NASB)
“How you have fallen from heaven,
You star of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth,
You who defeated the nations!

Isaiah 14:12 (NASB95)
“How you have fallen from heaven,
O star of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth,
You who have weakened the nations!

Isaiah 14:12 (ESV)
“How you are fallen from heaven,
O Day Star, son of Dawn!
How you are cut down to the ground,
you who laid the nations low!

Yes, the fall of the King of Babylon was likened unto the low hanging planet Venus seen on the horizon. It wasn't until much later when Christians changed the meaning of the verse to fit mythical ideology and Smith simply followed suit, rather ignorantly as he was so wont to do.

[Shulem]

For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

Some say I do not interpret the Scripture the same as they do. They say it means the heathen’s gods. Paul says there are Gods many and Lords many; and that makes a plurality of Gods, in spite of the whims of all men. Without a revelation, I am not going to give them the knowledge of the God of heaven. You know and I testify that Paul had no allusion to the heathen gods. I have it from God, and get over it if you can. I have a witness of the Holy Ghost, and a testimony that Paul had no allusion to the heathen gods in the text.

Wrong! Joseph Smith doesn't know what he's talking about and his false witness of the Holy Ghost (SPOOK) is blasphemy. Smith's reading of the KJV text is false and Mormons today are stuck with that problem! Not even MG can save it! (I rebuke you, MG, in the name of Jesus Christ!)



What do other translations that are superior to the KJV have to say? Do they contradict Joseph Smith's Holy Ghost?

Yes!

See here:

NIV
For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”),

AMP
For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords,

AMPC
For although there may be so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many of them, both of gods and of lords and masters,

CEB
Granted, there are so-called “gods,” in heaven and on the earth, as there are many gods and many lords.

CEV
Many things in heaven and on earth are called gods and lords, but none of them really are gods or lords.

ERV
It’s really not important if there are things called gods in heaven or on earth—and there are many of these “gods” and “lords” out there.

EASY
It is true that people call many things their gods. Those are things both in heaven and on earth. Those people have many gods and many lords.


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