No one knows when it began. Not even gods, gods, gods, god can remember. As the story goes though, a brash young developer from the suburbs of Kolob came on the scene. He had a sweet hip sway-fist pump dance move, a hawkish Roman nose and a stunning dead orangutan hairdo. A demagogue demigod, and before you knew it, it was pay to play.malkie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 20, 2026 1:00 amI was thinking about the Elder Gilbert thread today, especially this brief exchange:I started working backwards from that idea, and before too long my thoughts led me to this:Guide to the Scriptures: IntelligenceGuide to the Scriptures: Intelligence wrote:Intelligence has several meanings, three of which are: (1) It is the light of truth that gives life and light to all things in the universe. It has always existed. (2) The word intelligences may also refer to spirit children of God. (3) The scriptures also may speak of intelligence as referring to the spirit element that existed before we were begotten as spirit children.
If we could get in touch with our inner eternal "intelligence"[3], and ask it/her/him for an opinion, I wonder how many of us would wish that that "more intelligent than all" guy had just minded his own business and left us alone to get on with ours.
As far as I can see, there's no indication that our "spirit elements" were suffering, or even uncomfortable or unhappy in any way with how we were in the beginning. But the guy who decided that he was smarter than all of the rest of us also decided that he was going to drag us along into his scheme - kinda like "I'm #1 god. I'm from the eternal government, and I'm here to help you. You'll like it - honestly, you'll see!". #1 god creates something called "spirits" for us - apparently, as future eternal archeologists may find, a kind of transitional form between intelligences and physical beings.
We're all roped in, willy nilly, expected to just take smarty-pants' word for it that we were going to be better off, and look what happens: war breaks out because one third of of the spirits don't like the plan that #1 god created to make himself even more powerful than he was to start with, and so he banishes them.
The other two thirds are eventually sent to earth as spirits clothed in corporeal beings, apparently to learn a bunch of lessons. But we don't remember any of what went before, and, independent intelligent beings that we are, not all of us can just take it on faith that the story told to us by the people Equality mentioned - the ones claiming to represent #1 god - is true: And we don't much like it that we're told that we will be punished if we don't eventually fall in line. Some of us will find ourselves punished for eternity. What the Fetch! Remember, we were there from the start, before #1 god got his fancy ideas.
Effectively we (members of this board, and every other human past, present & future) are here because #1 god was bigger and stronger than we were, and forced us to exist under his dictatorship.
#1 god then set up an organization (called the church) here on earth, and allows his favourite humans, known as "leaders", to pass on his dictates to us (or so they say), and "seal" punishments on us for breaking arbitrary rules - things that hurt nobody else, but are defined as "sins".
Although some of these leaders are real pr!cks, and are totally full of themselves, one of the worst sins we can commit is to criticise them, even if the criticism is valid. We are just expected to be obedient, to learn to do what we are told, even if it goes against our strongest inner values of right and wrong.
This is the so-called Plan of Happiness, even though we may have been perfectly happy originally, and would rather have been left alone. We cannot know if that's the case, because we're not allowed access to that information - it's been blanked out from our memories before we were sent to become humans on earth.
#1 god tells us, through his leaders, that he wants all of us to have the opportunity to become like him (a bit of vanity - what if that's not what we want), but he also tells us that his ways are not our ways, so really we have no clue if any of it is true. But one thing seems fairly certain: we were all OK as we were before #1 god set us on this road, but now at least one third of us will not be OK.
Am I the only one who feels a bit uncomfortable with this "plan"?
You wanna go down in a delight-some body - cough up some kronkites. You wanna spend the hereafter in a posh apt. with a pop-up wife pez dispenser - pony-up some units.
Too bad about the losing losers though. Every system it seems another one third get deported, simply because they asked: who is this Jesus fellow and why was there no primary - 50 billion souls get to spend the rest of ever groping around the homeless camp in the dark wearing nothing but a spirit body ... With their starlink turned off.