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A Comparison

Posted: Fri May 08, 2026 4:26 pm
by Tim
Charismatic, controversial and deeply polarizing. A relentless self-promoter. From an early age, he was known as a cheat, a liar, and a con man with a talent for larger-than-life stories, especially about his own experiences. He would not be slowed down by contradictions, fabrications, or moral compromises.

He inspired extraordinary passion, both devotion and hatred. Supporters and opponents would rally in equal fervor, often at great risk to his life. The law bent against him, and he bent it in return to protect himself and silence his critics. Above all, he valued loyalty; not honesty, competence, or principle, but personal devotion, reinforced by an expectation of silence regarding his indiscretions. Loyalty was rewarded lavishly; perceived betrayal, however slight, was met with swift and often vindictive retaliation.

He built wealth through spectacle, persuasion, and an uncanny ability to borrow, often leaving creditors with worthless claims. He experimented with unorthodox financial arrangements and convinced his followers to invest in his own variations on these schemes. His family members were frequently brought in as partners, trusted advisors, and financial recipients.

Womanizing and adultery were constant shadows around him (including allegations involving teenage girls). He surrounded himself with other men who were involved in similar behavior. His multiple marriages eventually became a defining characteristic.

He played both sides of the political divide. Frustrated with both parties, he ran for president on a nationalistic platform centered on protecting his own kind.

He was a great man of history, not for his virtue, but because he bent reality to match his vision of it. A vision he began to claim was ordained by God. Educated elites dismissed him as a fraud and a demagogue. Yet long after his rise, millions continued to build their identities around devotion to the man, the movement, and the promise that only he could restore what others had lost.

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Re: A Comparison

Posted: Fri May 08, 2026 5:07 pm
by Fence Sitter
As I have said before, "all one has to do is look at Donald Trump to see how Joseph Smith acted during the Nauvoo years."

Re: A Comparison

Posted: Fri May 08, 2026 5:15 pm
by sock puppet
The two faces of modern LDS culture

Re: A Comparison

Posted: Fri May 08, 2026 5:21 pm
by drumdude
Now Dan is going to have to pay Redbrick Filmworks another 3-4 million dollars to film himself defending Joseph Smith.

Did you know Brigham Young had a soft spot for the arts? Maybe Joseph Smith had a fondness for watercoloring.

Re: A Comparison

Posted: Fri May 08, 2026 5:43 pm
by Tim
sock puppet wrote:
Fri May 08, 2026 5:15 pm
The two faces of modern LDS culture
I wrote this because an LDS friend of mine who hates Donald Trump can't figure out why so many Mormons defend him and are invested in him. To me it seems like they recognize the assignment.