The feelings mutual, Kish. I appreciate your patience with me, as hard as that must be.Kishkumen wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 2:04 pmFirst of all, stem, let me say that I really like you, and I think you are a good egg. I just disagree with you completely on this point. You are telling me that there is part of reality you and others consider unreal and irrational. In doing so you are following a fashionable ideology. Lots of very smart people agree with you. I don’t, but that’s OK. To the contrary, I find it bizarre to downgrade a whole segment of the real world and human experience as silly stuff that no one should take seriously as real.
You place the mind and imagination in an inferior category. If it’s “made up,” to you it is not worthy of consideration. With a standard like that, humanity would have made very little progress. Much that we take for granted as bearing on the most important principles underlying reality was imagined in the human mind before it was demonstrated in other ways. That tells me there is something important going on in the imagination and the human mind, something mysterious even.
Stuff we categorize as religion is not utterly separate from the rest. Religion is a “made up” category. It has its uses, but I don’t accept that the religious is by definition less real and less worthy of consideration in an age of different priorities and new myths/ideologies.
The spirit realm is worth of consideration. I'm not saying its not. But there has to be something to consider. When the claim turns up empty what are we consider besides emptiness at this point?