Renlund claims deceased are disadvantaged without proxy temple work...

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Renlund claims deceased are disadvantaged without proxy temple work...

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In a Facebook post about the wearing of masks, Renlund made this comment:
As we anticipate performing more proxy ordinances in the temples, we do for others what they cannot do for themselves. Without these blessings, these deceased individuals are profoundly disadvantaged.
https://www.Facebook.com/DaleGRenlund

How, specifically, are the deceased "profoundly disadvantaged" by not having temple proxy work done for them?
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IHAQ wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:36 am
In a Facebook post about the wearing of masks, Renlund made this comment:
As we anticipate performing more proxy ordinances in the temples, we do for others what they cannot do for themselves. Without these blessings, these deceased individuals are profoundly disadvantaged.
https://www.Facebook.com/DaleGRenlund

How, specifically, are the deceased "profoundly disadvantaged" by not having temple proxy work done for them?
It's all brainwash. No one knows anything about the dead, but my what a big deal they make as if they talk to them every single day and ask them questions about their needs, desires, which stores in heaven ought to open up, how much it will cost to repave the road to the Telestial Kingdom etc. They act just like they are very familiar with the after life and its all pure phony. It's a con-job, a slick production of a scam.
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Its a really stupid comment. The Church preaches everyone will have the ordinance performed. I mean right now, the Church can't go back before 1500 to proxy ordain people, because there are no records. But you know, in the 1,000 years of righteous beauty, they will get everyone through the power of God's all-knowing everyone (except for those whom he ends up telling he never knew them).

So, in the end, who exactly is profoundly disadvantaged?
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Renlund is just another apostolic charlatan pitching ads for the Mormon Church.

The conniving testimonies of Mormon apostles are fake. These guys have no special witness of the Unseen God. These guys have no special powers. They are fakers and carnival stunt-men putting on an act for the Mormon Apostle Circus Freak Show.

Among other clowns:

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Renlund wrote:profoundly disadvantaged

In other words, they are poor and destitute not having the privileges of others who are more blessed. Kind of like how poor blacks living in low income neighborhoods or how in the 1960's black converts to the Mormon Church were profoundly disadvantaged because they couldn't hold the priesthood.

Yeah, I get it.

Screw you, Renlund and the horse you rode in on.
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Sell your soul to the Mormon Church?

Never Again.

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The myth master magicians need to keep providing the dupes members with fresh myth to consume. Personally, I like my myth with a beer chaser. It seems to go down smoother that way.
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dastardly stem wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:10 pm
Its a really stupid comment. The Church preaches everyone will have the ordinance performed. I mean right now, the Church can't go back before 1500 to proxy ordain people, because there are no records. But you know, in the 1,000 years of righteous beauty, they will get everyone through the power of God's all-knowing everyone (except for those whom he ends up telling he never knew them).

So, in the end, who exactly is profoundly disadvantaged?
God can only do what he can do with what he’s got. You’re obviously not going to be of much help. Unfortunately throughout the ages the story has been the same. Most people, for one reason or another, are going to reject the fullness of the gospel. The ordinances of salvation/exaltation can only be performed within the constraints of what is possible.

God needs more hands than his to do his work.

And who’s to say that within the framework of eternal time there aren’t those that are hopeful to have these ordinances done sooner rather than later.

If you break your smartphone or its not performing its functions correctly, how long do you want to wait before getting a new one? Are there things you are unable to do without one? Getting one sooner rather than later is a real benefit.

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mentalgymnast wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:28 pm


God can only do what he can do with what he’s got. You’re obviously not going to be of much help. Unfortunately throughout the ages the story has been the same. Most people, for one reason or another, are going to reject the fullness of the gospel. The ordinances of salvation/exaltation can only be performed within the constraints of what is possible.

God needs more hands than his to do his work.

And who’s to say that within the framework of eternal time there aren’t those that are hopeful to have these ordinances done sooner rather than later.

If you break your smartphone or its not performing its functions correctly, how long do you want to wait before getting a new one? Are there things you are unable to do without one? Getting one sooner rather than later is a real benefit.

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MG
Its apparent you have multiplied the stupidity in the comment. Do you think people who are dead who are waiting for their ordinances to be done are at a profound disadvantage? What might be the problem with them having to wait?
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IHAQ wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:36 am
In a Facebook post about the wearing of masks, Renlund made this comment:
As we anticipate performing more proxy ordinances in the temples, we do for others what they cannot do for themselves. Without these blessings, these deceased individuals are profoundly disadvantaged.
https://www.Facebook.com/DaleGRenlund

How, specifically, are the deceased "profoundly disadvantaged" by not having temple proxy work done for them?
What I find curious is a belief in a god who will disadvantage a person on the basis of what OTHER people do in their lives. If this "profound disadvantage" is true, then the Mormon god judges people in the afterlife on the basis of what OTHER people do or don't do. One's judgment would then be completely unrelated to one's life on earth. That is an indefensible theological definition of "god's judgment" of an individual soul.
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