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Re: Shout Out to Shulem!

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Shulem wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:03 pm
It's obvious the artist was interested in expressing a crude outline and not bother to keep within the obvious conventions of a face in profile as shown in every single face of the papyri collection. The doodle was different and it was not Egyptian in nature. Perhaps the doodler was drawing Joseph Smith and getting a good a laugh at the same time. Do you think?

You make a good point, Shulem. Now let us look into the crystal ball and see more. Look, see, Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery pretending to dabble in the mystic arts of a visionary experience while at Harmony, Pennsylvania,1829. Now see, Joseph pretending to work a vision in declaring a revelation of St John in a translated version of the record made on parchment by John and hidden up by himself. Joseph Smith pretends to SEE (as a seer) the very record with his spiritual eyes!

Smith used this same pretended gift of imagining to see and translate ancient Egyptian and understand the scene depicted in Facsimile No. 1, of the the papyrus in his hands. But what did Smith see? He saw what he wanted to see just as he did on many occasion, as he did the Book of Moses, a story invented out of thin air and Smith visualized things that never happened.

The doodle was a false revelation as is the sacrificial story of the Book of Abraham.

Smith made the doodle up just like he made the story up.
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Re: Shout Out to Shulem!

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We promised our subscribers no illustrations but have given them one of Joe Smith the Mormon Prophet, in full uniform as Lieutenaiit-General, one of Old Keokuk with his son at his feet, in his full dress war costume as he appears when a young man in the National Picture Gallery at Washington, also one of Black Hawk, the War Chief of the Sacs and Foxes, as sketched by a U. S. officer at the close of the Black Hawk ^Var, while he was a prisoner of war in 1833).

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Hey Shulem, do you know who drew this? And doesn’t that head look a wee bit familiar?


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Re: Shout Out to Shulem!

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Lem wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:44 pm
Hey Shulem, do you know who drew this? And doesn’t that head look a wee bit familiar?

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Indeed, a version of Sutcliffe Maudsley's piece, and it's reasonable to think that Joseph may have actually encouraged Hedlock to incorporate a little of the Smith image just for fun in order to achieve a sense of personal satisfaction -- a wee bit of mystery, every producer likes to include hidden expressions in their works. In the words of LDS apologists, "it's possible" or "it's plausible", so we can't rule it out. Perhaps we can find a little of the Egyptian priest in these authentic Maudsley portraits of Joseph posing along side his brother, Hyrum.

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We can safely say with absolute surety that both the doodle and the final cut used for the Facsimile No. 1, printing plate, look nothing like the face that was on the original papyrus. Both accounts restored by the Mormons are not inspired and do not reflect the truth. The face on the original papyrus was that of a black jackal wearing an Egyptian headdress. I'm confident that Egyptologists Gee & Muhlestein could vouch for that.
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Anubis comparison

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From a 19th century perspective, what are some chief differences Smith and his comrades may have perceived regarding the black personage in the vignettes of Facsimiles 1 & 3? What indicators led Smith to make the interpretations he did? Anubis in Facsimile No. 1, is an imposing figure, whereby an ignorant 19th century observer such as Smith might naturally analyze him as a person of authority and importance. This is exactly how Smith perceived the imposing figure of Anubis who seems to be lording over the entire scene as if he is in control with an overreaching arm of total authority.

Anubis in Facsimile No. 3, however, lacks all of the qualities of the imposing black man of Facsimile No. 1. He lords over nobody. He's at the end of the line, last, and seems to follow his predecessor as if he's fortunate enough just to be on the scene. The curious embrace between Anubis (Fig. 6) and Hor (Fig. 5) seems to suggest a humble sense of submissiveness. It seems natural that a 19th century mindset could easily identify this black man as a slave so long as he has a human head and not the authoritative head of a jackal as revealed through Masonry's Dog-star.

There is the possibility that portions of the original head of the papyrus of Facsimile No. 1, survived and were intentionally removed by Smith in perhaps an effort to clean or prepare the image to receive a new reconstructed head more fitting to what Smith envisioned. It's entirely plausible! Earlier in this thread, I brought up the point that there were what appear to be straight cuts into the papyrus whereby pieces appear to have been cut or torn from the papyrus using a straight edge. But that is speculation on my part and nobody can prove Smith intentionally hacked off bits of the black head to remove remaining fragments which would prove the head was jackal in form rather than human. However, traces of an inked headdress do remain and Smith did not restore a headdress but elected to have a white man's head placed atop the obvious body of a black man or, what could be perceived as a black man like the black man in Facsimile No. 3. Note particularly that the black men of both Facsimiles have solid black arms, legs, feet, and shoulders. The person is BLACK.

So, why neglect to include a black head atop the black man of Facsimile No. 1, like the head atop the black man of Facsimile No. 3? Both bodies are black and should have black heads. Nonetheless, Smith elected to have the authoritative and imposing figure of the first Facsimile bear the head of a white man even though the body is black. How many observers in Smith's time caught this obvious blunder? I don't think it was discussed let along noticed. It's not something that has been discussed in our day until I made a stink about it on my website after making the discovery that the snout had been hacked out of the lead plate.

The white head atop the black body is the worst choice Smith could have ever made in restoring the head of Anubis in Facsimile No. 1. It's an obvious display of white supremacy whereby the white man lords over the black man. It's terribly racist! The Church is under obligation to correct this problem by removing the white man's head and replacing it with a jackal head, respectively. If the Church refuses to do this then it will be held in contempt and the accusation of white supremacy in Mormonism will continue to stand on the basis that the Church refuses to acknowledge its error and refuses to correct it.

In Mormonism, white men rule over black men. Blacks must be submissive to white leadership. The white head in Facsimile No. 1, will ever serve as a reminder of this sad reality.
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Shulem
Can you provide links to what a normal lion couch would look like. One hand up and the other holding his penis.
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hauslern wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:39 am
Shulem
Can you provide links to what a normal lion couch would look like. One hand up and the other holding his penis.

The lion couch in the papyrus of Facsimile No. 1, is "a normal lion couch" and there are many available on the Internet if you care to Google them. With regards to the hands of Osiris and his phallus, there are also many scenes in which you can Google if you care to compare them with Facsimile No. 1.

If you prefer big dick, here is one from the Dendera Hathor Temple Complex:

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Do make sure you listen to the Radio Free Mormon Podcasts where Egyptologist Robert Ritner provides accurate and correct information about Facsimile No. 1:

Dr. Robert K. Ritner on the Book of Abraham part 1
Dr. Robert K. Ritner on the Book of Abraham part 2

Dr. Robert K. Ritner on the Book of Abraham part 3
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Shulem wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:03 pm
The doodling does look like Hatch or even Joseph Smith himself.
Crystal ball, who is the fairest of them all?

You are.

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If Joseph Smith could be in the Book of Genesis, why not an Egyptian funerary papyrus? Just close your eyes and repeat, "I do believe in Maat, Osiris, and Joseph. Amen Ra."
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Re: Shout Out to Shulem!

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Moksha wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:10 am
Shulem wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:03 pm
The doodling does look like Hatch or even Joseph Smith himself.
Crystal ball, who is the fairest of them all?

You are.

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If Joseph Smith could be in the Book of Genesis, why not an Egyptian funerary papyrus? Just close your eyes and repeat, "I do believe in Maat, Osiris, and Joseph. Amen Ra."

You know, it's the fundamental basis in which Smith based all his revelation in that he projected his belief that he could do or be anything God wanted him to be and that he could decipher or translate anything God wanted him to translate with the caveat that it's true because he said so.

Every member of the Church today who reads the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3, does not believe them to be literally true. Not John Gee. Not Ed Goble. Nobody believes those Explanations truly define the writing and pictures of the papyrus. Everyone, including Gee, knows better. It's simply a manner of excusing our thoughts, rationalizing away logic like a sinner rationalized away his sins. Hence, the defenders of the Book of Abraham will defend it because they have locked themselves into that mindset and to venture out of it is to deny the faith.
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The Church is on notice

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As time goes on, months and years, it becomes quite obvious that the Church is ignoring the fact that the jackal headed person of Facsimile No. 3, (the black man having a canine ear and eye) and the white head atop the black man of Facsimile No. 1, has been swept under the rug and avoided at all cost. Mormons today, refuse to address this issue or admit that their Facsimile prints of the black Egyptian persons in question are inappropriate historical representations -- more especially anatomical anomalies that can't be justified or explained to the satisfaction of anyone who appreciates Egyptian art and history.

These racist slams by the Church show utter disregard and disrespect for the African race and is a constant reminder that the Mormon church has a long history of racism wherein Mormon doctrine and theology value white people more than black people. This has been a social and theological trait in Mormonism and is reflected in the fact that Mormon leadership is virtually all white! Appropriate apologies and reparation for past racism in the church has been avoided like the plague. The Church simply can't get itself to repent for its wrongdoing and correct the abominations of the Facsimiles. Who won't admit that putting a white man's head atop the body of a black man (Facsimile No. 1) is not an abomination? Who would encourage to leave this representation as is and continue to deny the black man his black head? Only the Mormon Church is fool enough to dance this dance and walk this walk. The Mormon Church is racist! This treatment of the Facsimiles will not go unnoticed. The world will hear about it and the world will do something about it!

The Mormon Church is on notice. Their racism and unwillingness to repent has been duly noted. The longer the Church refuses to repent, the longer it remains in its sins.
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It's all in the head

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The Church is not inclined to correct the head of the black man in Facsimile No. 1, because if they correct the color of the head, there is only one correct BLACK HEAD it could rightly depict: ANUBIS.

You see, the Church is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Getting rid of the white head is no easy task because then the issue evolves into whether it's suppose to be a human head or an animal head. Obviously, the world body of Egyptology would counsel the Church not to put the head of an African man on top of the body because that would be wrong. It has to be a jackal head because the person is Anubis! If the Church relents and corrects the head with a jackal, then the argument is going to be raised to the next level. The Church doesn't want to have to deal with that next level!

And that's where I come into the game with my killer arguments to destroy the Book of Abraham.

Ante up!
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