Murder among the Mormons

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Re: Murder among the Mormons

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sock puppet wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:38 pm
Fence Sitter wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:41 pm
Is this THE "Sock Puppet"?

Great to see you!
Is that a trick question? :shock:

It is the same "sock puppet" of 2010-2017 from mormondiscussions.com.

Well, if it is you then we shall know soon enough. No way you can hide under that sock.
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Re: Murder among the Mormons

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Lem wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:39 pm
Gadianton wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:30 pm
They only skim the Church's response to the Salamander letter. I think there was a very brief scene with Oaks in it, reading some kind of response but I don't recall what it was. They do make the Church look a little silly. GBH bought up documents to suppress them while leaders made a flurry of contradictory statements about them. Turley jumps in to say that even the prophet isn't allowed to know the truth as it would impinge on free agency.
Wow, talk about shooting your own religion in the foot. He could have said ‘Prophets know, but don’t tell,’ except that the prophet is photographed buying the documents, so the retrenchment to justify that is ‘Prophets aren’t allowed to know’??????

So, prophets who prophesy violate free will. But lds members must sustain their prophets as prophets. The cognitive dissonance must be head-exploding.
I finally got around to watching this last night. Has anybody transcribed precisely what Turley said on this? Because the way I heard it, he didn't shoot Mormonism in the foot--he shot it in the heart.

I heard his point like this: An omniscient God knows whether or not a purported ancient document is true or is a fraud, but he will never, ever tell us whether or not it is true. He won't even reveal such things to the Prophet himself. This is because telling people whether or not purported ancient documents are true will inhibit free agency.

Did I misunderstand what he said? Because if I'm not, this has ramifications beyond Hoffman's hoaxes...
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Re: Murder among the Mormons

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Analytics, that’s the way I understood it. I haven’t transcribed it.
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