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"Family" implies a plurality -- one or more members. This means that one or more members of the "family" have access to the account and made political contributions. Who done it?

ABC News wrote:Dieter Uchtdorf said in a statement provided by church officials that the contributions came from an online family account associated with his name.

What EXACTLY is an "account" that is associated with his name? Who controls the account? Who controls the password and maintains personal user information? From what I can tell, the statement does not exclude Dieter himself of being one of the persons of the "family" that may have made a contribution(s).

Dieter Uchtdorf wrote:I regret such an oversight on my part, I fully support the church’s policy related to political donations from church leaders.

Is this Dieter admitting that he was one of the members of the "family" that pressed the donation button? I think so!!

ABC News wrote:Church officials declined comment Friday beyond providing the statement from Uchtdorf.

This leads me to believe the Church has something to hide and they are playing their cards close to the vest. It appears to me that Dieter was one of the members of the family that knowingly disregarded official Church Policy and made contributions.

Oh my. My, my, my.

Where the hell is Radio Free Mormon? Consig, where the hell are you? This is derelict of duty on your part! This is a story that will net you big donations, is it not?

lol

Bought Yahoo wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:33 pm

Moksha wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:29 am

The crime in many LDS eyes is not breaking the rules, they can rationalize that away in a heartbeat. What they have a problem with is being untrue to Trump.

The Deseret News has consistently come out against Trump. The DN recently published a long opinion by BYU Law Prof Gedecks (sp) who is the Church's Supreme Court counsel.

The DN has only once before in its history taken a position about a presidential candidate.

Mrs. Uchtdorf was being true to the spirit of Deseret News.

Teach the sheep correct principles and they shall be fleeced by someone other than Trump!

Moksha wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:56 am

Mrs. Uchtdorf was being true to the spirit of Deseret News.

It might appear he bent the letter of the law in order to do what is right. Bless him.

Does the Church pay for the 'Dieter Uchtdorf' account that the family has access to?
I think where the funds came from to pay for those Democratic donations should be declared as it's in the memberships interest to know, especially as they have to make a decision on sustaining him or not in a few weeks time.

Transparency of General Authority remuneration and use of Church funds is long overdue.

Dieter F. Uchtdorf’s statement
“These donations were made by our family using an online account, which is shared by our family and associated with my name. I regret such an oversight on my part. I fully support the church’s policy related to political donations from church leaders.”

That isn't him explicitly saying he personally didn't make the 13 payments.
That isn't him explicitly saying he didn't sign off on the 13 payments.
That isn't him explicitly saying he wasn't involved in the family decision to make those payments.
That isn't him explicitly saying he had no knowledge of the 13 payments until it was brought to his attention after the event.

Uchtdorf's statement is attempting to mislead without being an outright lie. But as pointed out earlier in the thread, there is a Church teaching that deliberately misleading someone, or only telling a partial truth, is lying.

Uchtdorf has lowered the bar for everyone. If a General Authority at the highest levels can get away with breaking Church Policy and ignoring his contract, then so can other leaders who are serving in less important positions. Church Policy can simply be ignored based on the merits of personal values and opinion.

I think there is going to be a lot of leaders that are going to bend the rules from here on out.

Way to go, Dieter-boy!

After reviewing the neutrality policy with Wendy, PSR Russell M. Nelson received a revelation written at 3AM on a yellow pad with a #2 pencil. Russell M. Nelson called the FP into a special session in the temple to discuss the new revelation. This revelation said the following: " Thus says the Lord! One of my apostles betrayed me by making a donation to a political party in defiance of my law! This apostle must be divested of his Aviator watch collection and be cast into outer darkness for a season so that he will see the wrong in his ways and how grave a violation of my law was when he contributed to the Democratic Party. My spokesman Russell M. Nelson will decide the length of the season the apostle must be ousted from the community! In addition my servant Russell M. Nelson will go through the community of mine apostles and determine if other apostles have violated my law. If discovered these brethern will be also cast into darkness for another season! And I command my servant Russell M. Nelson to go one step further and that is to purge the entire church membership of both Biden and Trump supporters-Bernie Sanders is another matter as he is in self imposed udder darkness from which he will stay until I return to earth or he dies whichever comes first. Back to my revelation. Purging my people of all political persuasions, Democrat and Republican, will purify my church so that my Servant Russell M. Nelson can establish a theocracy on earth in the near future. My servant Russell M. Nelson will as corporation sole use the Ensign Peak monies in their ENTIRETY to establish my kingdom. Without this my people will bend with every political wind that blows! This kingdom will be come into power in 2024 in the USA and ASAP in other countries. My servant will spend the Ensign Peak monies in any and all ways to accomplish my will- when in accord with my will, bribes, payoffs, secret combinations, etc are not sinful as they accomplish my will. Thus says the Lord-now get to work!
The FP were seen leaving the temple in black SUVs headed for the Ensign Peak offices!

Journalist Robert Gehrke hints that Dieter may have lied when issuing statement about political donations...

It created a bit of stir this month when federal reports showed that Latter-day Saint apostle Dieter Uchtdorf had given money to the campaign of President Joe Biden as well as those of two Democratic U.S. Senate candidates in Georgia.

Uchtdorf issued a statement explaining that the donations — which violated church rules against leaders contributing to political candidates — were accidentally made in his name through a shared family account and stating that he regretted the mistake.

I spent some time tinkering with the ActBlue platform where the donations were inadvertently, incorrectly made and couldn’t figure out how it would happen.

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/03 ... -uchtdorf/