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Radio Free Mormon Bombshell -- Another First Vision Account

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:21 am
by Shulem
Radio Free Mormon just dropped a bomb.

What is it?

Click this link and advance to the 47 minute mark:

Mormonism LIVE ! Mormon Minecraft

Do it.

Re: Radio Free Mormon Bombshell -- Another First Vision Account

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:48 pm
by Tom
With regard to the date of Joseph Knight’s reminiscences, note that Knight references “Book of Covenants page 163.” This matches up with the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants (see here). It would appear that at least part of the document was written in 1835 or later.

Re: Radio Free Mormon Bombshell -- Another First Vision Account

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:39 pm
by IHAQ
Isn't the bigger bombshell the discovery that one of the Knight children was called Nahum?

Re: Radio Free Mormon Bombshell -- Another First Vision Account

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:05 pm
by Shulem
Tom wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:48 pm
With regard to the date of Joseph Knight’s reminiscences, note that Knight references “Book of Covenants page 163.” This matches up with the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants (see here). It would appear that at least part of the document was written in 1835 or later.

Wherein it says:
Page 5, line 9 wrote:the privilege of translating again as in Book of Covenants page 163

Note also another reference to the Book of Covenants:
Page 7, line 9 wrote:Oliver Reviewed a Commandment which is in Book of Covenants Page 174
Page 174

Re: Radio Free Mormon Bombshell -- Another First Vision Account

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:18 pm
by Doctor Steuss
IHAQ wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:39 pm
Isn't the bigger bombshell the discovery that one of the Knight children was called Nahum?
Great googely-moogely.

Nahum was about 9 years older than Joseph Smith.

Re: Radio Free Mormon Bombshell -- Another First Vision Account

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:20 pm
by Tom
Shulem wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 4:05 pm
Tom wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:48 pm
With regard to the date of Joseph Knight’s reminiscences, note that Knight references “Book of Covenants page 163.” This matches up with the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants (see here). It would appear that at least part of the document was written in 1835 or later.

Wherein it says:
Page 5, line 9 wrote:the privilege of translating again as in Book of Covenants page 163

Note also another reference to the Book of Covenants:
Page 7, line 9 wrote:Oliver Reviewed a Commandment which is in Book of Covenants Page 174
Page 174
Good catch. I see that Knight also references Book of Covenants Page 177.

Re: Radio Free Mormon Bombshell -- Another First Vision Account

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:55 pm
by Res Ipsa
IHAQ wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:39 pm
Isn't the bigger bombshell the discovery that one of the Knight children was called Nahum?
Good catch!

Re: Radio Free Mormon Bombshell -- Another First Vision Account

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:43 am
by cinepro
Uh, it sounds like there's a missing page and they're just guessing what it is. It could be a First Vision account, or it could be treasure digging, or an unusual version of the Moroni story, or anything else. There's no actual evidence of what was on the page(s).

How is a guess a "bombshell"?

Re: Radio Free Mormon Bombshell -- Another First Vision Account

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:03 pm
by Shulem
Well, I think it's a bombshell because it shows that something is missing. This is First Presidency material, information written about the founder of the Church and it seems to be commissioned by Smith himself. There are not many hands that have held those documents since it was first penned. The only hands I can think of are those under direct authority of the First Presidency.

Where is the missing page(s)?

Why is it missing?

Re: Radio Free Mormon Bombshell -- Another First Vision Account

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:07 pm
by dastardly stem
cinepro wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:43 am
Uh, it sounds like there's a missing page and they're just guessing what it is. It could be a First Vision account, or it could be treasure digging, or an unusual version of the Moroni story, or anything else. There's no actual evidence of what was on the page(s).

How is a guess a "bombshell"?
Agreed. Could be anything. Bombshell would be something not nothing that could possibly be something. The first vision story might not have even been imagined by that point.