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Re: Two thirds of Mormons say they voted for Trump

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:00 pm
by Everybody Wang Chung
I know everyone is stressed about the COVID pandemic, the national debt, unemployment, China's dominance, Russian hackers, the storming of the Capitol, global warming and the environment.

Just remember, there is no need to worry at all because Jesus will come and save us. Now go out and have a great day!


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Re: Two thirds of Mormons say they voted for Trump

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:27 pm
by The Stig
Bought Yahoo wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:37 pm
The Stig wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:05 pm
This confirms my suspicion that, for many members of the church, their REAL first religion is U.S.-focused "conservatism;" the actual teachings of the church are clearly secondary in their lives.
It is not conservativism. It is national socialism.
Agreed. Hence my use of scare quotes. The right-wing politics they've been pushing have nothing to do with conservatism, but they seem to have hijacked the word.

Re: Two thirds of Mormons say they voted for Trump

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:38 pm
by Res Ipsa
Just a pet peeve — the article itself is pretty irresponsible. She reports raw numbers without including a sampling error. Of the Mormons surveyed, 25% refused to answer the question. No information about the demographics of those who refused. If the split in the refusers is not similar to those who answered, her conclusions about trends could be off. Blech!

Re: Two thirds of Mormons say they voted for Trump

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:54 pm
by Fence Sitter
Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:38 pm
Just a pet peeve — the article itself is pretty irresponsible. She reports raw numbers without including a sampling error. Of the Mormons surveyed, 25% refused to answer the question. No information about the demographics of those who refused. If the split in the refusers is not similar to those who answered, her conclusions about trends could be off. Blech!
What you are seeing is that 25% of Mormons who were asked this question were afraid to publicly admit voting for Trump.

Re: Two thirds of Mormons say they voted for Trump

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:04 am
by Res Ipsa
Fence Sitter wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:54 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:38 pm
Just a pet peeve — the article itself is pretty irresponsible. She reports raw numbers without including a sampling error. Of the Mormons surveyed, 25% refused to answer the question. No information about the demographics of those who refused. If the split in the refusers is not similar to those who answered, her conclusions about trends could be off. Blech!
What you are seeing is that 25% of Mormons who were asked this question were afraid to publicly admit voting for Trump.
Maybe. Demographic data might help.

Re: Two thirds of Mormons say they voted for Trump

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:32 am
by Moksha
Bought Yahoo wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:37 pm
The Stig wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:05 pm
This confirms my suspicion that, for many members of the church, their REAL first religion is U.S.-focused "conservatism;" the actual teachings of the church are clearly secondary in their lives.
It is not conservativism. It is national socialism.
So when the Brethren meet, does President Nelson or Trump get to hold the title Il Duce?

Re: Two thirds of Mormons say they voted for Trump

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:04 am
by Dr. Sunstoned
DrW wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:57 pm
Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:46 am
Gross. Pretty damning indictment of the LDS Church.
For once I agree with Kish.
It's hard to imagine a more damning indicator of LDS religious delusion and the resulting belief system.
^THIS^

Re: True Christians vote for Trump

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:08 am
by Dr. Sunstoned
Shulem wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:57 pm
Fakes don't.

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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Trumpers
I don't get it. Why is Charles Manson hugging Trump?

Re: True Christians vote for Trump

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:11 am
by Res Ipsa
Dr. Sunstoned wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:08 am
Shulem wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:57 pm
Fakes don't.

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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Trumpers
I don't get it. Why is Charles Manson hugging Trump?
Because he doesn’t know who Trump is.

Re: Two thirds of Mormons say they voted for Trump

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 1:23 pm
by Kishkumen
Bought Yahoo wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:57 pm
Well I didn't.

Trump repeatedly mocked the Saints, according to reports.

And, the Deseret News repeatedly came out against him; most recently a couple of months ago publishing an opinion by the Church's constitutional lawyer who teaches at BYU law.

I find the vocal Facebook supporters of Trump these days, who are members of my stake, are decent people who have absurd and moronic and discriminatory political philosopies, but they have a lot of company. Trump is also not a true conservative. I was shocked to learn that the GOP did not publish a platform this year, and instead said it adopted Trump's positions.
Thanks for sharing that, BY. Whenever I see a conservative not buying into Trump, my respect for that person is really boosted. It is easy for a lefty not to follow Trump. For a conservative to resist really says something good about that conservative, in my opinion.