NewNameNoah's TikTok harassment allegations

[Philo Sofee]

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Jesus, I need to pay attention.

That's my line and you can't have it......

[Moksha]

Generally, when I do something public, I have no "reasonable expectation of privacy." If I post here publicly, should I have a right to privacy? That's something society has to figure out.

Just don't let Dr. Midgley open up a dossier on Harvey P. Rabbit.

[Meadowchik]

NNN preemptively banned on r/Mormon:

Following a long and intense discussion among the active moderator team here at r/Mormon the decision has been made to preemptively ban NewNameNoah (NNN) from /r/Mormon. This decision was not taken lightly and has been done to help protect our users from backlash regarding discussions surrounding recent actions of his. As many of you are probably aware, NewNameNoah has been accused of sexually harassing women on various platforms and was recently banned from TikTok. Following these accusations and evidence provided from the women, NNN has been engaged in an aggressive campaign to defend himself by discrediting these women, dox them, and harass any users who dared condemn him. Additionally, he has been accused of deleting criticism of his behavior on the Facebook Groups that he moderates As a part of this campaign, we also believe that he has used numerous alt accounts to bolster his attacks, particularly on Reddit.

We have never before issued a pre-emptive ban to any user, and we want to be clear why we have chosen to do so in this case. Our policy has always been to moderate user behavior that occurs only within r/Mormon. In accordance with our moderator values, we earnestly discussed making a statement about NNN's actions, but not issue a ban. However, our concern was that in light of NNN's threatening and abusive behavior, many of our users are afraid of speaking out openly for fear of repercussions, and without a ban, he would be free to respond to members here that wanted to speak about their experiences. Therefore, we have issued a ban prior to NewNameNoah breaking rules on this forum to limit the imminent threat that NNN poses to our forum and its users.

Out of an abundance of caution and based on past actions and threats, we encourage our users to not engage with NewNameNoah or any of his suspected alt accounts. If you have individually identifiable information in your reddit account, we urge you to consider your engagement based on whether you want that information to be shared. If he PM's you through his main or alt accounts, disregard the message and report it to the Reddit admins as harassment.

Separate from the motivation for the ban, the moderation team here at /r/Mormon unequivocally condemns NNN's continued disdain for women, and his aggressive actions that have the potential to harm people both online and in real life. We have reviewed some evidence brought forward by numerous women across various platforms. While we can see that the original incident might have begun as a misunderstanding on NNN's part, his continued harassment and doxxing after being rejected and his dissemination of pornography are far beyond the pale of a mere misunderstanding. No matter how the dispute began, his behavior since is utterly reprehensible and unacceptable for anyone, regardless of what identities they claim. Dangerous individuals are a threat to all Mormon-related communities, including Exmormon communities. We feel it is our duty to make our users aware of someone who poses danger to them and we condemn, in the strongest terms, his disregard for others and his poisonous vitriol.

Sincerely, the Mod team

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mormon/comment ... reemptive/

Good call, folks, And you hit the nail on the head. Take alone, his actions at the beginning of these conflicts might be considered problematic but not necessarily egregious. What is egregious is his reaction to criticism. And this is not a one-time thing but a long-term pattern.

[Kishkumen]

What a weird scene. I am glad the r/Mormon leadership exercised their function as leaders and put a halt to this.

[Fifth Columnist]

I've followed this a bit over the last few days, and this is what it looks like to me. NNN hit on some women on TikTok in ways that are a bit unusual, weird, and could be viewed as creepy. The women did not tell him to stop or that he was making them uncomfortable until they created TikTok videos, Reddit posts, or Facebook posts denouncing his conduct. NNN then apologized to those who characterized what he did accurately and said they did not like it. On the other hand, one accuser said he sent her a nude pic, which NNN has gone to extreme lengths to dispute.

This looks like NNN continued hitting on these women and making appropriate comments because they did not object to it and seemed to go along with it. The women, on the other hand, have said they went along with it because they were terrified of what NNN would do to them if they objected, wanted NNN to view them as people not sex objects, etc. Then, when the women did object (very publicly), NNN apologized to those who accurately characterized what he did.

I would be more inclined to get my pitchfork and crucify NNN if there were DMs, texts, etc. in which the women objected to what he said and then NNN continued doing it. If this exists, I'd like to see it. As it currently stands, I see a socially awkward guy trying to pick-up women in unusual ways, not being told to stop or that his pick-up methods make the recipient uncomfortable, having it exposed publicly, and then apologizing to those who accurately described what he did and object to it and hotly disputing the other who did not.

[Meadowchik]

I've followed this a bit over the last few days, and this is what it looks like to me. NNN hit on some women on TikTok in ways that are a bit unusual, weird, and could be viewed as creepy. The women did not tell him to stop or that he was making them uncomfortable until they created TikTok videos, Reddit posts, or Facebook posts denouncing his conduct. NNN then apologized to those who characterized what he did accurately and said they did not like it. On the other hand, one accuser said he sent her a nude pic, which NNN has gone to extreme lengths to dispute.

This looks like NNN continued hitting on these women and making appropriate comments because they did not object to it and seemed to go along with it. The women, on the other hand, have said they went along with it because they were terrified of what NNN would do to them if they objected, wanted NNN to view them as people not sex objects, etc. Then, when the women did object (very publicly), NNN apologized to those who accurately characterized what he did.

I would be more inclined to get my pitchfork and crucify NNN if there were DMs, texts, etc. in which the women objected to what he said and then NNN continued doing it. If this exists, I'd like to see it. As it currently stands, I see a socially awkward guy trying to pick-up women in unusual ways, not being told to stop or that his pick-up methods make the recipient uncomfortable, having it exposed publicly, and then apologizing to those who accurately described what he did and object to it and hotly disputing the other who did not.

You're missing the worse of his behaviour. It is described above.

[Kishkumen]

Call me overly cautious, but if I were a single heterosexual man online these days, I would refrain from hitting on women through the internet. Frankly, I am happy I am not single these days, and I don't want to be.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

He's posting videos on Instagram ref the peen video or pic or whatever. This is a tactic manipulators like to do where they hyper focus on the one thing they can kind of argue while ignoring the vast body of evidence detailing their bad behavior. Speaking of uncool behavior, John Dehlin (wtf, man!) was busted doing this:

John Dehlin randomly decided to go through x's personal Facebook and Instagram pages and not just like dozens of comments but almost exclusively her pics in bikinis and more sexy photos. This was a barrage all at once. Obviously flirtatious. We are not in an open relationship. He was not catching up because he consistently likes things on her page and this was very different than that (look at the screenshots). After the barrage he has not liked anything since....signaling guilt. It was bad behavior period."

Here's the screen cap:



I dunno what's goin' on with some of these exmo 'celebrities', but you'd think a supposedly respectable married therapist would know better than to do that. It's clear to me that was a soft come on, and it was disrespectful of their marriage. Are some men so goddamn thirsty they let their nuts rule their brains? Like. I get young people figuring stuff out. I get stunted Exmo's figuring stuff out. But 50+ year olds doing this? That's damned psychological.

It's weird, man.

Edit: Also, John Dehlin lecturing NNN to not do anything that damages the exmo community is hubris. I guess dudes who gather up a following of some sort must think personal behaviors or ethics are somewhat negotiable?

- Doc

[Kishkumen]

If that stuff is true, it's nuts. Yikes.

[dastardly stem]

We should get you all on a task force to determine the legitimacy of any inappropriate social media behavior just so we can all safely expose creepy fellas who are readying themselves to strike.

Just wanted to say that. I don't know much at all about Mike Norton, but I will add when I first heard of his endeavors and then saw his interactions with people, I was like "uh...that might be someone to stay away from and not take seriously." John Dehlin? I don't know. Liking pics? Dude that's gross.

What's with fellas getting a little bit of attention and influence and then using that to misuse people? Mormons have a scripture about that. Might need to go back to that. Goddam don't throw it all out.