Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

[jpatterson]

When you make up stories like this it leads to more victims getting dismissed and unheard. You're actively doing a disservice to sexual assault victims by labeling your breakup "abuse." It's not right. It means Natasha has to make disclaimers like "even though this woman is misrepresenting what happened, most abuse victims don't. It's awful she has to make that disclaimer because women make false claims like this.

I'm not making any stories up.

Natasha misrepresented what happened in that interview. If you bother to read the evidence. Which you continue to ignore.

[drumdude]

When you make up stories like this it leads to more victims getting dismissed and unheard. You're actively doing a disservice to sexual assault victims by labeling your breakup "abuse." It's not right. It means Natasha has to make disclaimers like "even though this woman is misrepresenting what happened, most abuse victims don't. It's awful she has to make that disclaimer because women make false claims like this.

I'm not making any stories up.

Natasha misrepresented what happened in that interview. If you bother to read the evidence. Which you continue to ignore.

You keep focusing on Natasha. How did John abuse you? You initially claimed he wanted sex from you or else he would fire you, which was a lie.

Breaking up with you which led to your termination is not abuse.

[jpatterson]

Let me explain this to you like you're a fourth grader:

Natasha's Story

Rosebud went to Joanna and said she was being sexually harassed (no date given)
The board was then informed (no date given)
The board decided to investigate (no date given)
Rosebud sent the "blackmail" email (October 12)
The board decided to lawyer up (no date given)

Rosebud's Story

I told John I wouldn't continue any sexual relationship with him (August 9)
John emailed me and told me I'd have to leave Open Stories Foundation (Aug 10)
John changed my passwords (Aug 11)
John informed Joanna Brooks he was in love with me and couldn't work with me (Aug 11)
I reported to Joanna the details of our relationship (Aug 22)
John banned me from the online communities I had created (Aug 23)
Joanna asked us both to resign (Aug 25)
I told Joanna no (Aug 27)
I got a letter from a lawyer firing me (Aug 31)
Joanna tells the board in passing, in an email, that I'd been fired. Doesn't say why. Oh and by the way, John's being re-hired, please approve his application (Sep 4)
Natasha responds, saying (paraphrase) "I have no clue what's going on, serious decisions are being made without the board's approval" (Sep 6)


Whose story is more believable? The lady who went on a podcast and couldn't get her facts straight or the lady who swore under penalty of perjury that she was sexually harassed?

[jpatterson]

You keep focusing on Natasha. How did John abuse you? You initially claimed he wanted sex from you or else he would fire you, which was a lie.

Breaking up with you which led to your termination is not abuse.

Are you daft? I'm not Rosebud. Seriously, what planet are you on?

[drumdude]

Let me explain this to you like you're a fourth grader:

Natasha's Story

Rosebud went to Joanna and said she was being sexually harassed (no date given)
The board was then informed (no date given)
The board decided to investigate (no date given)
Rosebud sent the "blackmail" email (October 12)
The board decided to lawyer up (no date given)

Rosebud's Story

I told John I wouldn't continue any sexual relationship with him (August 9)
John emailed me and told me I'd have to leave Open Stories Foundation (Aug 10)
John changed my passwords (Aug 11)
John informed Joanna Brooks he was in love with me and couldn't work with me (Aug 11)
I reported to Joanna the details of our relationship (Aug 22)
John banned me from the online communities I had created (Aug 23)
Joanna asked us both to resign (Aug 25)
I told Joanna no (Aug 27)
I got a letter from a lawyer firing me (Aug 31)
Joanna tells the board in passing, in an email, that I'd been fired. Doesn't say why. Oh and by the way, John's being re-hired, please approve his application (Sep 4)
Natasha responds, saying (paraphrase) "I have no clue what's going on, serious decisions are being made without the board's approval" (Sep 6)


Whose story is more believable?

John's text messages and the blackmail letter (which you admit was a huge mistake) refute everything you've said. And you still haven't acknowledged that you didn't have sex, and in fact John's text messages prove he ended it when you wanted to make the relationship sexual. It's all out there now and the same vague stories you've been peddling for almost a decade now don't match the actual facts.

I've wasted way too much time on this, I know everyone else on the board has gone round and round with you ad-nauseum as well.

[jpatterson]

And you still haven't acknowledged that you didn't have sex, and in fact John's text messages prove he ended it when you wanted to make the relationship sexual.

I'm literally arguing with someone who can't even read board handles.

Earth to drumdude...I AM NOT ROSEBUD.

[drumdude]

And you still haven't acknowledged that you didn't have sex, and in fact John's text messages prove he ended it when you wanted to make the relationship sexual.

I'm literally arguing with someone who can't even read board handles.

Earth to drumdude...I AM NOT ROSEBUD.

Honest mistake. Felt as if I was talking directly to her, I'm very impressed at your wealth of knowledge on the subject sir/madam.

Have a good night, and tell Rosebud she could use some serious therapy.

[jpatterson]

Honest mistake. Felt as if I was talking directly to her, I'm very impressed at your wealth of knowledge on the subject sir/madam.

Have a good night, and tell Rosebud she could use some serious therapy.

Confirmed: You have atrocious reading comprehension skills.

Confirmed: When presented with hard evidence, you choose to still simp for John Dehlin. Are you on the Open Stories Foundation payroll like Natasha?

[drumdude]

Honest mistake. Felt as if I was talking directly to her, I'm very impressed at your wealth of knowledge on the subject sir/madam.

Have a good night, and tell Rosebud she could use some serious therapy.

Confirmed: You have atrocious reading comprehension skills.

Confirmed: When presented with hard evidence, you choose to still simp for John Dehlin. Are you on the Open Stories Foundation payroll like Natasha?

Now I'm getting kwaku vibes with the simp thrown out I do think Rosebud is a little too old to know that one.

Simp all the way, I get paid by Open Stories Foundation and then I throw the cash back at him in his livestream, $5 and he takes his shirt off for me in a private room.

You know how kinky John Dehlin gets.

[jpatterson]

Now I'm getting kwaku vibes with the simp thrown out I do think Rosebud is a little too old to know that one.

Simp all the way, I get paid by Open Stories Foundation and then I throw the cash back at him in his livestream, $5 and he takes his shirt off for me in a private room.

You know how kinky John Dehlin gets.

Speaking of kinky (and blackmail), have you ever asked John Dehlin what he did to blackmail Rosebud?

John Dehlin is a gross creep and you should take a shower for defending him.