Church News Article Says: Get Your House in Order!

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dastardly stem wrote:
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Yeah, as a whole, the Bible is a pretty messed up book. I think there are ways one can feel inspiration from god by studying some parts of it, but most of it is primitive, barbaric, and very contradictory.
On the bolded portion. Can we suggest that is true of many books? I mean nearly all? Some people can seemingly feel inspiration by any parts of any book? And why would someone include god as being part of that inspiration? Or perhaps, what is inspiration?
Yes, of course. That is why god has said we should seek knowledge from the best books.

If you are asking what inspiration is, I can only offer my opinion that it is confirmation or condemnation; epiphany or confusion. Sometimes all at once.
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Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:48 pm
Yes, of course. That is why god has said we should seek knowledge from the best books.
Where is God? In people's imagination? If all people get inspired from any book or other media, what's the point of God and scripture?
If you are asking what inspiration is, I can only offer my opinion that it is confirmation or condemnation; epiphany or confusion. Sometimes all at once.
Everyone's inspired then? What makes one inspired to the right religion and another the wrong or no religion?
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dastardly stem wrote:
Where is God? In people's imagination? If all people get inspired from any book or other media, what's the point of God and scripture?
If you are asking what inspiration is, I can only offer my opinion that it is confirmation or condemnation; epiphany or confusion. Sometimes all at once.
Everyone's inspired then? What makes one inspired to the right religion and another the wrong or no religion?
You're asking questions for which no external answer will satisfy you, and for which centuries of philosophical debate have not empirically resolved. It's like what the actual nature of love is. You have to find those answers on your own.
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Sledge wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:12 pm
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Where is God? In people's imagination? If all people get inspired from any book or other media, what's the point of God and scripture?

You're asking questions for which no external answer will satisfy you, and for which centuries of philosophical debate have not empirically resolved. It's like what the actual nature of love is. You have to find those answers on your own.
Obviously, because there is no actual external answer that works. God for millenia has also failed to empirically resolve it. Gee, I wonder why... :roll: I noticed how you very conveniently just skipped over that obviousness.
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Philo Sofee wrote:
Obviously, because there is no actual external answer that works. God for millenia has also failed to empirically resolve it. Gee, I wonder why... :roll: I noticed how you very conveniently just skipped over that obviousness.
The obviousness that there is no god?

I can't agree with that position.
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Sledge wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:56 pm
Philo Sofee wrote:
Obviously, because there is no actual external answer that works. God for millenia has also failed to empirically resolve it. Gee, I wonder why... :roll: I noticed how you very conveniently just skipped over that obviousness.
The obviousness that there is no god?

I can't agree with that position.
Oh aren't you a clever coy one to obviously miss the entire point with a lame question... now then, do I really honestly have to take you by the hand and gently step by step connect the dots with you as I would a kindergartner?
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Philo Sofee wrote: Oh aren't you a clever coy one to obviously miss the entire point with a lame question... now then, do I really honestly have to take you by the hand and gently step by step connect the dots with you as I would a kindergartner?
Yes, please do! Pretty please?
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Sledge wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:12 pm
dastardly stem wrote:
Where is God? In people's imagination? If all people get inspired from any book or other media, what's the point of God and scripture?

You're asking questions for which no external answer will satisfy you, and for which centuries of philosophical debate have not empirically resolved. It's like what the actual nature of love is. You have to find those answers on your own.
In other words you have no reason for your belief? Or you have no faith that your beliefs can withstand scrutiny? If God inspired people through any book or media, and they need not think God is involved what's the point of God? Is he like Sagans invisible dragon and nothing more?
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In other words you have no reason for your belief? Or you have no faith that your beliefs can withstand scrutiny? If God inspired people through any book or media, and they need not think God is involved what's the point of God? Is he like Sagans invisible dragon and nothing more?
I don't know how you jumped there from what I said.

Of course anyone can be inspired. It seems like a pointless question to ask. God speaks to and inspires everyone who will listen. (I don't mean listen in the literal sense, unless you're consuming books as audiobooks in which case listen could be in the literal sense.) I don't have an answer for "what's the point of god" that will satisfy you--no one does.
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Sledge wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:49 am
dastardly stem wrote:
In other words you have no reason for your belief? Or you have no faith that your beliefs can withstand scrutiny? If God inspired people through any book or media, and they need not think God is involved what's the point of God? Is he like Sagans invisible dragon and nothing more?
I don't know how you jumped there from what I said.

Of course anyone can be inspired. It seems like a pointless question to ask. God speaks to and inspires everyone who will listen. (I don't mean listen in the literal sense, unless you're consuming books as audiobooks in which case listen could be in the literal sense.) I don't have an answer for "what's the point of god" that will satisfy you--no one does.
Again it appears you have nothing more than a Sagan's invisible Dragan here. Why are you treating God as a presupposition?
“Every one of us is, in the cosmic perspective, precious. If a human disagrees with you, let him live. In a hundred billion galaxies, you will not find another.”
― Carl Sagan, Cosmos
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