dastardly stem wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:30 pm
On the other thread, Sledge was pretty evasive and seemed to, in the sum, define prophecy as something a prophet says and not much more. At one point he said a prophecy is just a prediction, but then seemed to take issue when I pointed out that's what he said.
What? I didn't take issue with that. That is exactly what I said.
He also said prophecy is a mandate. He also pointed out that prophecy is really just "the right thing to do".
No. I didn't. You aren't acting in good faith, stem. Why?
Also when he said: "heeding a prophets words to be healthy, to "take vitamins" is a type of prophetic mandate, is it not?" He was left equivocating on the concept of prophecy, muddying up the waters enough to suggest, at least as I saw it, that prophecy is simply something a prophet says that he kinda liked.
You saw it very incorrectly.
Although included in that "prophecy" of eating vitamins was Nelson's claim that in the next year or two there will be "exciting" events which will further indicate the restoration is continuing. That was 3 years ago. What exciting things have been revealed regarding the restoration in that time? Of course Sledge has nothing on that, since it appears, everything the prophet prophesies is meek is not magic nor specific in any sense.
COVID-19 is pretty exciting. What will it mean for our worldwide church?
I mean I hate to sound like I'm picking on the guy, because you know, when it comes to outlandish claims it's kind of no big deal. They're a dime a dozen and easily dismissed as loony people saying loony things. But let's just frame his position a little more.
Why are you assuming I'm a guy?
To Sledge, apparently, God actually communicates with humans. If so, one would think that would be pretty important for people to know.
Yes. It is very important to know, that's why I said it, and that's why I seek communion with god as we all should.
When asked for examples of God communicating, he finds a couple of, as he puts it, admittedly meek sentences,
Okay, so asked and answered. No one asked for magic tricks or parting of the Red Sea, did they?
which he misquoted,
Seriously, what are you talking about? Where did I quote them and especially where did I misquote them? Post links, please.
and when pressed to a very light degree he clammed up a bit and in place of stepping up with a good reason for others to think God said something, he basically back-stepped suggesting God's messages are kinda lame and useless in the long run.
Where did I do that? I didn't do any such thing. Examples were requested, examples were given. I am really astounded that you won't even give me the modicum of respect required to actually read what I wrote and address it. What you are doing here is setting up straw men that are easy for you to knock down. Please stop.
They don't seem to matter at all. He hedged his bets at every point after that, it seemed. He demurred saying something about how in the Bible prophecies were rare, so we can't really expect to see any these days. Well, he says, "if you are looking for a magic trick then you might not understand the nature of prophecy", as if anyone was asking for magic or anything like it. And of course, as he put it, prophecy is "just prediction". But as it were there were no predictions outlined by him and nothing to indicate the prophet understood his words were an attempt to predict anything--he indicated a couple of times how it's possible or likely that Nelson didn't even know what he was saying.
Of course you know, but won't admit, that this was a different discussion.
I don't think he's willing to discuss anything in a respectful way. I hope he surprises me, though.
Please point out one time,
just once where I was disrespectful to you in any way.
