Stephen Smoot's LGTB Presentation At The Upcoming FAIR Conference

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Montez's entire thesis is that BH Roberts lost his faith in the Book of Mormon. One of the main evidences they use is part of a radio address. They cherry-picked only the part of the radio address that supported their thesis, hoping that no one would be able to (or willing to) find the full address which actually does not support her thesis. Smoot with the help of "bloodhound" Matthew Roper took that challenge and totally destroyed Montez's argument and at the same time showed their scholarship to be sub-par.
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Sledge wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:28 am
Montez's entire thesis is that BH Roberts lost his faith in the Book of Mormon. One of the main evidences they use is part of a radio address. They cherry-picked only the part of the radio address that supported their thesis, hoping that no one would be able to (or willing to) find the full address which actually does not support her thesis. Smoot with the help of "bloodhound" Matthew Roper took that challenge and totally destroyed Montez's argument and at the same time showed their scholarship to be sub-par.
Wait. You read her 180-page dissertation so you would understand the context of Smoot’s blog entry?

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I read it after the Mormon Stories episode, yes.
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I read it after the Mormon Stories episode, yes.
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Sledge, I'm glad you're here to offer another perspective, but so far:

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
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Sledge, I'm glad you're here to offer another perspective, but so far:
By all means... why is it not good?
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Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:45 am
By all means... why is it not good?
Perhaps the notion that you can refute history with apologetics.
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I'm glad to see that Smoot is taking a break from "Neville Neville Land" in order to do something more productive.
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Moksha wrote: Perhaps the notion that you can refute history with apologetics.
History is the full and complete historical record (the transcript of the complete radio address), not Montez’s cherry-picked partial version. Wouldn’t you agree?
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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:42 am
I'm glad to see that Smoot is taking a break from "Neville Neville Land" in order to do something more productive.
If he is the owner of that blog he should take it down.
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