A silver lining in a dark cloud of socialism

[Gadianton]

Ajax, are you changing your position?

Election results are showing that Trump's biggest increase to his base come from poor immigrants in Florida but also Texas, by the border, where ties to illegal immigration are the strongest.

Yesterday:

We must build a wall at 20M$ a mile in tax money to segregate the races in order to ensure the prosperity of the Republic.

Today:

We must welcome our Lamanite brothers and join as one, so that our votes might combine against the threat of higher taxes, for the prosperity of the republic.

[canpakes]

Equality of result is taxation? What does equality of result have to do with natural monopolies?

You know what? Don't answer. I'm done herding cats for a while.

Is this a new straw man? Why are you equating taxation to ‘equality of result’?

Also, should I feel put upon by being forced to pay taxes to build a relatively ineffective border barrier at $20 million dollars per mile? At what point should I be repulsed by your preferred tyranny and socialist tax policies as they are foisted upon myself and others?

[Res Ipsa]

Equality of result is taxation? What does equality of result have to do with natural monopolies?

You know what? Don't answer. I'm done herding cats for a while.

Is this a new straw man? Why are you equating taxation to ‘equality of result’?

Also, should I feel put upon by being forced to pay taxes to build a relatively ineffective border barrier at $20 million dollars per mile? At what point should I be repulsed by your preferred tyranny and socialist tax policies as they are foisted upon myself and others?

Ajax's problem is not herding cats. It's that he can't stick to a subject long enough to think it through with any depth.

[Res Ipsa]

Socialism is the removal of individual choice in how you spend or don't spend your paycheck. It's no longer equality of opportunity but equality of result. It's where incentive to work longer and harder are taken away It's a form of bondage as evidenced by things like the Berlin Wall. Freedom is not easily regained once this happens. In fact it's nearly impossible.

Sigh. OK, I'll break it down for you:

Socialism is the removal of individual choice in how you spend or don't spend your paycheck.

That's not socialism. It's taxes.

It's no longer equality of opportunity but equality of result.

Nothing in the US does that. You are confusing equality of results with using results as a check on whether we actually provide equality of opportunity. When black and white folks use illegal drugs at similar rates, but we imprison black folks for minor drug crimes at a rate multiple that of whites, there is no equality of opportunity. But spotting that inequality of opportunity requires treating the results as relevant.

It's where incentive to work longer and harder are taken away

So, in your world of "freedom," everyone should be a wage slave from cradle to grave. That's a very odd notion of "freedom."

It's a form of bondage as evidenced by things like the Berlin Wall.

So, your saying that restricting the freedom of people leave one country and move to another is "bondage." Like the Trump wall. On this point we might agree.

It's a form of bondage as evidenced by things like the Berlin Wall. Freedom is not easily regained once this happens. In fact it's nearly impossible.

So, your freedom is the freedom not to pay any taxes but work as a wage slave from cradle to grave and to leave one country to live in another except the United States. What am impoverished, limited view of freedom.

What you have described isn't socialism at all. It's a weird grab-bag of things that offend you all thrown together in the same pot.

You have more freedom in your lifetime than almost any person who have ever lived. Yet you make yourself miserable by fussing over the difference between your gross and net paycheck. You can't enjoy what you do have because someone, somewhere might be getting a better deal than you on something. You're the dark cloud, and its very hard to see any silver lining in what you post here.

[canpakes]

ajax, can you give me an example of this ‘equality of results’ nightmare that you are now pitching as the soon-to-be new normal in Joe Biden’s America©? Is this, like, when everyone gets to use a paved road that was built using tax dollars?

Or are there better examples of this forced equality?

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Socialism is the removal of individual choice in how you spend or don't spend your paycheck. It's no longer equality of opportunity but equality of result. It's where incentive to work longer and harder are taken away It's a form of bondage as evidenced by things like the Berlin Wall. Freedom is not easily regained once this happens. In fact it's nearly impossible.

Good damned Lord, it's no wonder the GOP gets away with what it does. God damn these people are damned dumb.

- Doc

[Res Ipsa]

ajax, can you give me an example of this ‘equality of results’ nightmare that you are now pitching as the soon-to-be new normal in Joe Biden’s America©? Is this, like, when everyone gets to use a paved road that was built using tax dollars?

Or are there better examples of this forced equality?

Wait, canpakes, you mean the government isn't forcing us all to have the same net paycheck, whether we are doctors or Wal-mart greeters?

[Some Schmo]

I get the feeling Cartman and ajax see the same things when they close their eyes...

[Some Schmo]

Socialism is the removal of individual choice in how you spend or don't spend your paycheck. It's no longer equality of opportunity but equality of result. It's where incentive to work longer and harder are taken away It's a form of bondage as evidenced by things like the Berlin Wall. Freedom is not easily regained once this happens. In fact it's nearly impossible.

Wow, did you wiki that first?

You should... at a minimum.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Looks like those Red States are big fans of mooching and socialism (whatever that means in their dim bulb brains):

https://www.reddit.com/r/confidentlyinc ... h/gbp1fus/

Not that any smooth dome would actually click on the link and read the information, to include clicking on the sources and reading that information, but it’d be a good idea if they did.

tl;dc - Koch brothers inadvertently discover red states are moochers, stop their research.

- Doc