Gun shooting in Arizona

[_Quasimodo]

Obiwan,

I'm not sure your posts are helping your cause here much. Accusing people of not reading your posts or calling them ignorant is not endearing you to anyone.

Most of the people here are very well read and I imagine they are reading your post (I have been).

Maybe you feel that people don't hear you because they don't agree with you. Your examples and conclusions seem a little over the top to me and I'm sure to many others (even conservatives).

I don't know why you're so angry (maybe you don't either). Perhaps a more moderate tone would help to explain your views.

No offense intended.

[_Obiwan]

I'm not "accusing" people for not reading my posts, I'm simply stating that they clearly didn't in full and with any comprehension. They put words into my mouth and they completely ignored half of what I said, which "directly" addressed their negative assumptions, and thus misrepresenting the first part of what I said because of it.

That's not different opinion, that's directly being inaccurate and not telling the truth.

[_Eric]

I'm not "accusing" people for not reading my posts, I'm simply stating that they clearly didn't in full and with any comprehension. They put words into my mouth and they completely ignored half of what I said, which "directly" addressed their negative assumptions, and thus misrepresenting the first part of what I said because of it.

That's not different opinion, that's directly being inaccurate and not telling the truth.

The same can be said for you, since you continue to claim that all presidential assassins and attempted-assassins where "leftists". I posted very early on in this thread, as have others, a solid refutation for this claim that you have simply ignored or failed to comprehend.

[_Obiwan]

I'm not "accusing" people for not reading my posts, I'm simply stating that they clearly didn't in full and with any comprehension. They put words into my mouth and they completely ignored half of what I said, which "directly" addressed their negative assumptions, and thus misrepresenting the first part of what I said because of it.

That's not different opinion, that's directly being inaccurate and not telling the truth.

The same can be said for you, since you continue to claim that all presidential assassins and attempted-assassins where "leftists". I posted very early on in this thread, as have others, a solid refutation for this claim that you have simply ignored or failed to comprehend.

Not true at all. I and someone else directly addressed your claim and supposed evidence that most assassins "weren't" lefists, we showed that basically all clearly were. You are the one not dealing with the evidence failing to comprehend.

[_Eric]

The same can be said for you, since you continue to claim that all presidential assassins and attempted-assassins where "leftists". I posted very early on in this thread, as have others, a solid refutation for this claim that you have simply ignored or failed to comprehend.

Not true at all. I and someone else directly addressed your claim and supposed evidence that most assassins "weren't" lefists, we showed that basically all clearly were. You are the one not dealing with the evidence failing to comprehend.

Wow. Okay, let's do this at a pace you can keep up with.

1. What were John Hinckley, Jr.'s stated motivations for attempting to assassinate Ronald Reagan?

2. What was Hinckley's political background?

[_Eric]

bumping for God's Warrior and Obiwan.

[_Obiwan]

Wow. Okay, let's do this at a pace you can keep up with.

Speak for yourself, I understand your idiocy clearly.

1. What were John Hinckley, Jr.'s stated motivations for attempting to assassinate Ronald Reagan?

It was a "love offering" for his obsession Jody Foster.

2. What was Hinckley's political background?

Yes his family was Republican, but that doesn't mean every child especially ones that are crazy are.
As to him, Lee Harvy Oswald was his "role model". Ronald Reagon was one of the most conservative presidents we ever had, thus you trying to claim a conservative killed a conservitve is just moron speak.

Hinkley was simply crazy.... Whether Hinkley was conservative or liberal it doesn't matter, his reasons for the attempted killing were crazy ones, not political, nor having anything to do with his background. His entire backgroud was clearly "crazy" focused, not about political ideology's.

Further, I find it telling that you completely ignore the fact that we said "most" or "basically all" were liberals, and second it is telling that you pick the ONLY example that has any sort of conservative connection, and that is through his parents not really him. Third, it is also telling you try and pick him as an example when he was clearly crazy and did it for crazy reasons, not policitical nor ideological based.

Is that all you got???

[_Eric]

Is that all you got???

Great job, Obiwan. You finally admitted that not "all" presidential assassins are from or motivated by the "left wing". And to think, in the same exact thread where Calculus "God's Warrior" Crusader was forced to retract his silly statement about the gold standard and admit that it is a right wing ideal.
What progress!

So, Obiwan, would you like to continue down the list of assassins? We've got one so far. Would you like to talk about John Wilkes Booth next?

[_Brackite]

ABC News presents video of an interview with Loughner's close friend, who says:

"He did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn’t listen to political radio. He didn’t take sides. He wasn’t on the left. He wasn’t on the right."

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2 ... 4855351008

Where's the apology to Palin and people on talk radio. The Left accused them without evidence and the Left was wrong again.

This morning on “Good Morning America,” ABC’s Ashleigh Banfield sat down with Zach Osler, a high school friend of Jared Loughner, the suspect in the Tucson massacre.

Osler says his friend wasn’t shooting at people, “he was shooting at the world.” Regarding the high-pitched talk radio and cable news political rhetoric, Osler says his friend didn’t even watch the news.

He did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn’t listen to political radio. He didn’t take sides. He wasn’t on the left. He wasn’t on the right.

Link: http://visiontoamerica.org/story/shoote ... news.html#



Jared Lee Loughner:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner

[_Brackite]

The Following is From Wikipedia:

In the initial aftermath of the 2011 Tucson shooting, the media speculated that Loughner's political views had been fueled by extremist rhetoric. Records show that Loughner was registered as an independent voter and voted in 2006 and 2008, but not in 2010.[20][21] A YouTube channel under an account called "Classitup10" was linked to Loughner.[22][23] Loughner had also posted a video on YouTube in which he described his school, Pima Community College, as "one of the biggest scams in America". This video led to Loughner being suspended from the school.[24] One classmate stated that Loughner had laughed at a young woman and likened her to a terrorist after she read a poem about getting an abortion.[25][26] Classmates identified Loughner as a nihilist and atheist, and noted that he was critical of religion.[15][19][25][27] An old friend, Bryce Tierney, discussed several of Loughner's views. According to him, Loughner had exhibited a longstanding dislike for Gabrielle Giffords, a Blue Dog Democrat, and he repeatedly derided her as a "fake." This grudge intensified when he attended her August 25, 2007, event and she did not, in his view, sufficiently answer his question: "What is government if words have no meaning?"[19] Loughner kept Gifford's form letter, which thanked him for attending the 2007 event. An envelope in the same box as the letter was scrawled with phrases like "die bitch" and "assassination plans have been made."[28] Loughner was known to believe, and to say, that women should not hold positions of power.[29][30] Loughner's best friend, Zach Osler, disputed speculation by media commentators that Loughner's actions were fueled by partisan politics and rhetoric, insisting, "He did not watch TV, he disliked the news, he didn't listen to political radio, he didn't take sides, he wasn't on the Left, he wasn't on the Right," and instead conspiracy theories had a profound effect on him.[9] Another friend, Zane Gutierrez, later told the New York Times that Loughner's anger would also "well up at the sight of President George W. Bush or in discussing what he considered to be the nefarious designs of government".[30]