Romney's Latest Lies

[_Doctor Scratch]

Well, well. The truth comes out. I knew there was a reason why you were hesitant to talk about your work conditions, Droopy. Part of the reason you hate "The Left" is because you don't want anyone to take away your silver spoon.

[_Droopy]

Well, well. The truth comes out. I knew there was a reason why you were hesitant to talk about your work conditions, Droopy. Part of the reason you hate "The Left" is because you don't want anyone to take away your silver spoon.

Pile on, Scratch. It only makes ever clearer the moral and intellectual vacuum at the center of the apostate, anti-Mormon and leftist soul.

Oh, and by the way, the money is almost gone. I'm starting a new job next week, and, as my wife cannot work, it will be up to me to maintain things. I also lost upwards of $60,000 in a paintball field venture mismanaged by my two step sons, and around $20,000 in the economic meltdown, and a substantial deduction for tithing. Then there's all the stuff I helped various family members with etc. It really wasn't that much, and hardly a silver spoon, which normally means something one was born into.

No such luck in my case.

[_krose]

I see Droopy has been taken in by the big, scary lie about Social Security (spread by right-wing asshats who want it do die), that it is on its way to certain doom.

Yes, if nothing at all is done, the surplus will run out in about 22 years, at which point cuts will have to be made because of less money will be available to pay out. But with a few minor adjustments sometime in the next few years, it will remain healthy for several more decades. I'm not concerned; it will be there when I retire, and for my children too. Even wacko libertarians like Paul Ryan and Rand Paul won't survive if they actually try to dismantle Social Security and Medicare.

Here is a good article by noted financial author Jane Bryant Quinn about the misconceptions:
http://www.aarp.org/work/social-security/info-11-2011/5-social-security-myths.html

But by all means, Droopy, don't apply for Social Security (or Medicare either, for that matter). I would hate to see you depending on the gub-mint for anything. Stick to your misguided principles.

[_Brackite]

Now after that what is Obama to do if the Republicans are going to filibuster everything? Remember during the State of the Union speech he proposed a 60$ billion dollar Jobs Bill that got squashed. When he tried a "grand bargain" with Republicans to create a deal to cut both military and domestic spending the Republicans walked away from the deal they agreed to. They have been undermining him at every opportunity, so the anemic economy has basically been on "autopilot" since the do? The Great Depression lasted ten years! This Recession is probably going to take another 3-5 years to reach full recovery.

The Following News Article is from Fox News:

Obama's Jobs Bill Fails to Advance in Senate Despite White House Push

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President Obama's $447 billion jobs bill failed to clear a procedural hurdle in the Democratic-controlled Senate Tuesday night despite a White House push that accelerated in the 11th hour.

The bill received 50 votes falling short of the necessary 60 to end debate. Sens. Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Jon Tester of Montana were the only Democrats to vote against the bill. Both of them are facing tough re-election campaigns next year.

Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., had said earlier that although he intended to vote in favor of ending the Republican filibuster, he did not intend to support the bill if it reached a final vote.

Now that it has failed, both the House and Senate are expected to turn this week to approving U.S. trade agreements with Colombia, Panama and South Korea, one of the few areas of agreement between Republicans and the administration on boosting the economy. And Senate Democrats are looking at ways of breaking the jobs bill into pieces that would be easier to pass.

Obama declared earlier Tuesday that the U.S. Senate faced a “moment of truth” when it voted on the bill, calling it "gut check time." He later issued a statement accusing Republicans of obstruction.

Link: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10 ... te-defeat/



Even if President Barack Obama's so-called ‘Jobs Bill’ ended up passing in the Democratic-controlled Senate, it still wouldn't have been able to pass in the Republican-controlled House of Representatives. President Barack Obama did indeed get to sign his stimulus bill into law in 2009. President Bill Clinton Never got to sign his stimulus bill into law.
The Following Old News Article is from the New York Times:

G.O.P. Senators Prevail, Sinking Clinton's Economic Stimulus Bill

By ADAM CLYMER
Published: April 22, 1993

Senate Republicans killed President Clinton's economic stimulus program today, maintaining their filibuster until Democrats surrendered and agreed to limit the bill to $4 billion for extended unemployment benefits.

Mr. Clinton's first serious legislative defeat was marked by complaints from Democrats in the Senate and the White House. But Bob Dole, the Senate minority leader, was satisfied that the Republicans had shown that they deserved to be taken seriously. He avoided gloating, and promised occasional cooperation with the President.

A brief, harsh outburst from Senator Robert C. Byrd, the West Virginia Democrat who heads the Senate Appropriations Committee, served as the eulogy for Mr. Clinton's original $19.5 billion measure, which was proposed in February. He said Republicans would accept "billions for unemployment, not one cent for jobs." A 'Difference of Philosophy'

On the winning side, Senator Dole quietly argued that Republicans, too, want jobs. But asserting that "a fundamental difference of philosophy has brought us to this point," the Kansas Senator said his party viewed the plan as too expensive and fatally flawed because it added to the deficit instead of having its spending matched by cuts elsewhere in the budget.

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As originally offered, the bill included about $4 billion to extend unemployment benefits, $2 billion for education grants, $6 billion for highways and public improvements and $2 billion for summer jobs. The Republicans were especially critical of $2.5 billion in community development block grant spending, which they said would pay for pork barrel projects.

Senator Dole minimized the ramifications of today's action. "It's just a bump in the road for President Clinton," he said, adding that Republicans would support him on other measures, including the North American Free Trade Agreement.

The White House was not buying his argument. 'Politics Before People'

"The minority leader showed that playing politics is a lot more important than putting people to work," said George Stephanopoulos, the White House communications director. "The real losers here are the hundreds of thousands of Americans who won't get jobs this summer and beyond, because a minority of Republicans put politics before people."

Link: http://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/22/us/go ... -bill.html

[_Kevin Graham]

Brackite, is there a point buried somewhere in there? Because I couldn't find it.

[_Doctor Scratch]

Wow... You blew 60K of your inheritance on a paintball venture? And I bet you think that paintballing is something that squares with the "Hefneresque hedonism" of the Left... Is that about right?

[_Brackite]

The unemployment rate of Madison is always quite low relative to the state and nation. Right now, we are at 5%, which is the loose definition of full employment. Using Brackite logic, that means uber-liberal Madison has the best local government in the area and one of the best in the country.

The reality is more complicated. You can't draw a beeline from unemployment rate to job performance of a government, but Brackite simply does not understand this.

Dear EAllusion,

I was mainly responding to the ridiculous claim that the OP in the Opinion Article that he provided here. Here it is again:

Oh, and where have those mass layoffs of schoolteachers been taking place? Largely in states controlled by the G.O.P.: 70 percent of public job losses have been either in Texas or in states where Republicans recently took control.

I do Not know of any “G.O.P. States” where the unemployment rate increased during this past year. For Example, Michigan where the Republicans recently took control of saw the biggest decrease in their unemployment rate among all of the rest of the States during this past year.

Michigan: http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/michigan/

Governor and Lieutenant Governor

Republican candidate Rick Snyder beat Democratic Party candidates Virg Bernero 58% to 40% to become Governor. Brian Calley was Snyder's running mate and was elected Lieutenant Governor.

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State House of Representatives

Prior to the November 2010 election, the Democratic Party held 65 seats in the House and the Republican Party held 42 seats. The Democratic Party lost 18 total seats, and now has 47, while the Republican Party's victory brought them up to 63 seats in the House, swaying the Michigan House of Representatives' majority from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_elections,_2010


I realize that some Liberal Democrats may argue that the State of Michigan saw the biggest decrease in their unemployment rate this past year is mainly because of the auto bailouts. However, Michigan is still termed a “G.O.P. State where the Republicans recently took control" of. The State of Texas has a Republican Governor, a Republican Lieutenant Governor, and a Republican controlled State legislature, yet Texas has an unemployment rate that is lower than the unemployment rate is for the Nation. The State of Texas saw its unemployment rate decrease from 8.0% to 7.0% during this past year.

Texas: http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/texas/


I was also responding to the very silly claim that California and Rhode Island are Republican States. However, I knew they are Not Republican States, and I provided the evidence here that they are Not Republican States. I do not really know why the unemployment rate is very high in Rhode Island, since I am not too familiar with Rhode Island and their Government there. However, I am very familiar with California and with its politicians, so I do believe that a lot of the liberal policies in that State have played a major role in the unemployment rate being as high as it is there.

And as for Madison, Wisconsin goes, I am not that familiar with that city and its politicians.