Droopy, are you pro democracy?

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Droopy, are you pro democracy?

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Droopy, you live in a multi party democratic state.
The price you pay for living under a political system of this nature is that sometimes the party of your affiliation loses and you have to endure, for a period, living under a political system whose principles and policies you vehemently disagree with. Are you happy with that or would you sacrifice 'democracy' in favour of a single-party state under a totalitarian family dictatorship (assuming the single party was the one with whom you affiliated)?
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Re: Droopy, are you pro democracy?

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I think we know the answer to that simply by noting that the LDS vision of the ideal form of government is a theocracy.

Jesus is supposed to come someday and rule the world as a dictator, replacing all governments, democratic or otherwise.
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The price you pay for living under a political system of this nature is that sometimes the party of your affiliation loses and you have to endure, for a period, living under a political system whose principles and policies you vehemently disagree with.


The understanding is that the party in power DOESN'T change the political system...
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krose wrote:I think we know the answer to that simply by noting that the LDS vision of the ideal form of government is a theocracy.

Jesus is supposed to come someday and rule the world as a dictator, replacing all governments, democratic or otherwise.



This is a complete misrepresentation of both theocratic government under authentic priesthood control (and nothing prevents theocracy from being representative-democratic in nature) and LDS views regarding the nature and proper scope, bounds, and limits of power.

It is the Left that desires dictatorship, not conservatives, not libertarians, and not Mormons. Jesus' personal rule here during the Millennium, one must keep in mind, will circumscribe only those people remaining on the earth at that time (those that have lived either a celestial or terrestrial law while in mortality). The wicked will have been removed completely, and without them, many of the very thorny and divisive political conflicts now common will no longer be relevant.
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Re: Droopy, are you pro democracy?

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Bazooka wrote:Droopy, you live in a multi party democratic state.
The price you pay for living under a political system of this nature is that sometimes the party of your affiliation loses and you have to endure, for a period, living under a political system whose principles and policies you vehemently disagree with. Are you happy with that or would you sacrifice 'democracy' in favour of a single-party state under a totalitarian family dictatorship (assuming the single party was the one with whom you affiliated)?


What do you think, Bazooka, give the positions I've taken and the arguments I've been making across cyberspace for the last ten years?
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Re: Droopy, are you pro democracy?

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Droopy wrote:
Bazooka wrote:Droopy, you live in a multi party democratic state.
The price you pay for living under a political system of this nature is that sometimes the party of your affiliation loses and you have to endure, for a period, living under a political system whose principles and policies you vehemently disagree with. Are you happy with that or would you sacrifice 'democracy' in favour of a single-party state under a totalitarian family dictatorship (assuming the single party was the one with whom you affiliated)?


What do you think, Bazooka, give the positions I've taken and the arguments I've been making across cyberspace for the last ten years?


On that basis I'm assuming you're Pol Pot! :biggrin:
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Re: Droopy, are you pro democracy?

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Droopy wrote:
krose wrote:I think we know the answer to that simply by noting that the LDS vision of the ideal form of government is a theocracy.

Jesus is supposed to come someday and rule the world as a dictator, replacing all governments, democratic or otherwise.



This is a complete misrepresentation of both theocratic government under authentic priesthood control (and nothing prevents theocracy from being representative-democratic in nature) and LDS views regarding the nature and proper scope, bounds, and limits of power.

It is the Left that desires dictatorship, not conservatives, not libertarians, and not Mormons. Jesus' personal rule here during the Millennium, one must keep in mind, will circumscribe only those people remaining on the earth at that time (those that have lived either a celestial or terrestrial law while in mortality). The wicked will have been removed completely, and without them, many of the very thorny and divisive political conflicts now common will no longer be relevant.


Droops, is your belief system a Democracy?
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Re: Droopy, are you pro democracy?

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Bazooka wrote:
Droops, is your belief system a Democracy?


No. The optimum form of government, so far as human societies are concerned in mortality, is for me a republic.
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Re: Droopy, are you pro democracy?

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Droopy wrote:
Bazooka wrote:
Droops, is your belief system a Democracy?


No. The optimum form of government, so far as human societies are concerned in mortality, is for me a republic.


re·pub·lic
/riˈpəblik/
Noun
A state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president...


So you are happier with the form of Government in the US rather than, say, the UK?
(Why?)
That said, with the Book of Mormon, we are not dealing with a civilization with no written record. What we are dealing with is a written record with no civilization. (Runtu, Feb 2015)
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