The Boom in Disability Benefits

[_moksha]

How do you measure exact percentages of any illegal underground activity going on?

By using a weather balloon instruments to plot the amount of cigar smoke being emitted on nearby yachts during the Republican National Convention.

[_ajax18]

By using a weather balloon instruments to plot the amount of cigar smoke being emitted on nearby yachts during the Republican National Convention.

I take it you wouldn't be in favor of the reforms enacted in the Netherlands if it means people being asked to do what they are able to do in lieu of an early free retirement courtesy of the taxpayer.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

You'll note Ajax has not, not one time, ever bitched about the medical profession, white collar criminals that they are, bilking our government for hundreds of billions in overage

No, not since I got the letters OD after my name. Let me assure you that nobody ever got rich off $29 Medicaid reimbursement exams.

ETA

Doc if you read the section entitled, the disability industrial complex in the article, "Unfit for work, the startling rise of disability in America," you'll see examples of white collar borderline fraud on a large scale by doctors and lawyers approving people for disability. I've complained about this plenty.

Sure, but have you examined the medical industrial complex and studied the outright fraud perpetrated by those white collar criminals against state and federal agencies? Have you compared numbers against how much is doled out to welfare recipients? This might be a case of getting your house in order before griping about Sahrqueisha getting Section 8 housing because she ate herself into hyperobesity.

- Doc

[_ajax18]

Sure, but have you examined the medical industrial complex and studied the outright fraud perpetrated by those white collar criminals against state and federal agencies? Have you compared numbers against how much is doled out to welfare recipients? This might be a case of getting your house in order before griping about Sahrqueisha getting Section 8 housing because she ate herself into hyperobesity.

- Doc

Getting back to the orginal post, I was just asking if you thought giving a tax break to employers who find ways to keep people who are at less than 100% healthy employed part time was a good idea.

[_Kevin Graham]

In order to prevent the DI trust fund from going bankrupt next year, Congress may resort to temporary expedients. But for meaningful change to take place, Congress must instead ease the burden placed on an expanded DI system that was never designed to be used so heavily. Lawmakers could follow the example set in the Netherlands, where officials have reduced the number of disability beneficiaries by 60% in the past six years by requiring back-to-work plans and lowering taxes for employers who can keep disabled workers on the job. We’ve already seen signs of progress on this front: Last year, former Republican Senator Tom Coburn proposed legislation offering rehabilitation and other benefits to encourage workers to stay employed.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilhowe/2 ... fca1656b93

This was a great article. I was thinking since so many of you view western European socialism as the ideal, would following the Netherlands in this policy be good for the US?

You do realize, this article is three years old. There is no longer a "boom" in Disability benefits.

In fact, the rate of increase is negative and has been dropping since 2010. This proves a correlation with the economy and fighting wars, and nothing to do with lazy people making up reasons not to work.

2006: 4.40%
2007: 4.25%
2008: 4.59%
2009: 4.87%
2010: 5.34%
2011: 4.53%
2012: 2.94%
2013: 1.30%
2014: 0.13%
2015: -0.50%
2016: -1.13%
2017: -1.29%

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Getting back to the orginal post, I was just asking if you thought giving a tax break to employers who find ways to keep people who are at less than 100% healthy employed part time was a good idea.

That's not getting back to the original post, and you're just trying to distract from the white collar crime where your industry has managed to remove anti-competitive forces in the healthcare market.

35 states have certificate of necessity laws (not that I'd expect you to have a basic understanding of what that means) that actually have as their stated purpose limiting competition to keep prices high for things like hospitals and specialty clinics.

This has a tremendous impact on the price of healthcare.

Another big one is breaking the monopoly on medical licensing. If you're a doctor in Germany or the UK or other first world nation, you should be able to immigrate to the US and get licensed without too much hassle. You currently cannot. Currently, residencies in the US are controlled by congress, and are deliberately bottlenecked to keep doctor salaries high.

* Note that I'm specifically not talking about lowering standards. The current system is set up so that people who meet the standard cannot get licensed (not all of them anyway).

So. Stop bitching about lardkeshia, and fix your own damn house before you come at me with that weakass crap, ajax18. You and your ilk are a cabal of damned thieves, and it seems people are too confused to even wrap their minds around the problem. Just the way you all like it.

- Doc

[_ajax18]

Another big one is breaking the monopoly on medical licensing. If you're a doctor in Germany or the UK or other first world nation, you should be able to immigrate to the US and get licensed without too much hassle.

Part of getting your medical license is your service to the profession. Do you think students and residents are taught much in the clinic? If you ask questions in the clinic they flunk you out. It's nothing more than working a job for free. I have no problem with allowing people from other countries to sit for our board exams but they need to give the same amount of service we all had to give to the profession to earn the suffix at the end of our names.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Note: Ajax18 didn't know the government, thanks to lobbying efforts by his industry, is throttling the jobs fully licensed and practiced doctors and clinicians can fill, so it can continue to bilk our government hundreds of billions in inflated costs due to shortages in staffing. Isn't that neat? They create the very dilemma they say exists, and as such, they're in high demand, and thus they can cheat the tax payer out of more money.

Cool.

Perhaps Ajax18, since he's an optometrist, ought to treat his myopia before worrying about LaDeonoctavia getting an EBT card.

- Doc

[_ajax18]

Note: Ajax18 didn't know the government, thanks to lobbying efforts by his industry, is throttling the jobs fully licensed and practiced doctors and clinicians can fill, so it can continue to bilk our government hundreds of billions in inflated costs due to shortages in staffing. Isn't that neat? They create the very dilemma they say exists, and as such, they're in high demand, and thus they can cheat the tax payer out of more money.

Cool.

Perhaps Ajax18, since he's an optometrist, ought to treat his myopia before worrying about LaDeonoctavia getting an EBT card.

- Doc

Thanks for the conversation Doc. Good bye.