Loss of democracy in Wisconsin

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North Carolina Republicans efforted to make it so the Republican Party legally controls running elections during election years. They have a history of using that control to do things like significantly burden voting in areas where Democrats live by having too few polling stations.

Markk - All parties do stuff like that. Why, Democrats sneakily advocate for policies that make voters want to vote for them. Scandalous.

Markk, the issue is not parties trying to win elections. It’s parties compromising the fairness of elections by harming people’s ability to translate their democratic preferences into representation. Stripping offices of power simply because another party won them is fundamentally different than making tenuous or dubious promises to support economic policy that a majority of voters favor.

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None of what you said is an example of what is going on in Wisconsin. And why do you think p hacking is relevant to the discussion?

He is preemptively saying whatever data you bring to bear on asymmetrical gaming of elections through redistricting, voter suppression, power grabs, etc. is inherently untrustworthy because p-hacking exists. Via p-hacking, anyone can support anything. Statistics lie therefore data is irrelevant, in other words.

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I used to think with Evers victory, that at least made it so Wisconin’s absurd gerrymander would at least be unwound in time for the 2022 elections. I’m now fairly concerned the Republicans are going to try and simply shut down redistricting until post-2022 through endless legal challenges and refusal to cooperate. Wisconsin basically always votes for the party opposite the Whitehouse in gubanatorial races due to the swingy nature of the electorate and thermostatic public opinion, so if Trump loses in 2020, a Republican governor will win in 2022 most likely.

[_Res Ipsa]

None of what you said is an example of what is going on in Wisconsin. And why do you think p hacking is relevant to the discussion?

He is preemptively saying whatever data you bring to bear on asymmetrical gaming of elections through redistricting, voter suppression, power grabs, etc. is inherently untrustworthy because p-hacking exists. Via p-hacking, anyone can support anything. Statistics lie therefore data is irrelevant, in other words.

It sounded post-truthian to me.

[_subgenius]

vote harvesting

I think he means 'ballot harvesting', a pejorative name given to election workers collecting completed absentee ballots and delivering them to be counted.

Oh well if an opinion piece in a California paper says soo...

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vote harvesting

I think he means 'ballot harvesting', a pejorative name given to election workers collecting completed absentee ballots and delivering them to be counted.

Oh well if an opinion piece in a California paper says soo...

No, that’s just how the English language works.