I don't think this debate moves the needle one way or the other, not one bit. Everyone's mind is made up. I don't fu-cking believe anyone is undecided at this point. That's total BS. If you care enough to vote, you know who you're voting for.
I really loathe our obsession with the "undecided voter." Really, in circumstances like these, you're either a person with some common sense who wants to prevent the collapse of Constitutional government in this country or you are voting for Trump. I am not saying that everyone in the former category is voting for Biden because some of them are in a state that is so clearly in the bag for one of the two candidates that they may well vote for a third party person, knowing full well that their vote for Biden won't make much of a difference anyway.
But undecided? SMFH!!!
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
I really loathe our obsession with the "undecided voter." Really, in circumstances like these, you're either a person with some common sense who wants to prevent the collapse of Constitutional government in this country or you are voting for Trump. I am not saying that everyone in the former category is voting for Biden because some of them are in a state that is so clearly in the bag for one of the two candidates that they may well vote for a third party person, knowing full well that their vote for Biden won't make much of a difference anyway.
But undecided? SMFH!!!
Isn't this a little bit much? Could you perhaps explain how Trump is going to cause the collapse of constitutional government if he is re-elected? Is he somehow going to make our country a dictatorship? How? I don't see how this clown could garner support from anyone to do so. I don't mean to pick on this but I think this is what turns the undecided or uncaring away from elections. There isn't any support for the statement as there isn't any support for the statement that Biden is a socialist. Yet, these unsupported hyperbolic statements keep getting made time and again while the real issues get put to the side, just like the billionaire donor class that supports both sides wants.
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen
It's just remarkable to me that so many people seem to be sanguine to the threat Trump poses, or see him as just another politician. I don't know how to account for such incredibly poor judgment of character.
Trump is just another politician like Hannibal Lector is just another chef.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
It's just remarkable to me that so many people seem to be sanguine to the threat Trump poses, or see him as just another politician. I don't know how to account for such incredibly poor judgment of character.
Trump is just another politician like Hannibal Lector is just another chef.
Other than his bombastic style that seems to be the driver of your angst, how is Trump a threat any more than any of the rest of them? Aren't politicians really puppets of their donors?
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen
I've thought for years they ought to have a microphone kill switch in debates. When your 2 minutes are up, the mike goes off until it is your turn to speak.
We don't have that because it would have worked against Democrats as in the case of the VP debate of 2012 between Biden and Paul Ryan. Biden was loudmouthed, rude, and interrupted Ryan every time he tried to speak, and it worked well for Democrats. Running a sleezy, nasty, chicago political machine style smear campaign and even weaponizing the FBI against the opposing party has worked for Democrats and up until now all we've ever had are Republicans who are to high and holy to get down and fight back. Mitt Romney performed fairly well in the debates against Obama but did it really matter?
I'll give Biden credit for while being old and decrepit he was able to go the full ten rounds and hang in there mentally. And at least he was willing to say that protester violence was wrong, he didn't support the Green New Deal, he did not support single payer healthcare and that he was the Democratic party right now, even if he's not. If he wins the election the radical left will kill him before 2022.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
Other than his bombastic style that seems to be the driver of your angst, how is Trump a threat any more than any of the rest of them? Aren't politicians really puppets of their donors?
Holy sh-it, if you think his "bombastic style" is the "driver of my angst" you don't know sh-it about what people don't like about him, or the threat he poses. I'm not even sure where to begin to explain it to you, and I highly doubt the effort is worth it. It feels like you're an adult asking me to explain how to count to 10.
The main driver of my angst is his incompetency as president, his authoritarian leanings, his apparent favoring of Russia over America, and that there are so many stupid Americans in this country that a moron like him could be elected. His personality is something like 965th on the list of problems I have with that idiot.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
Maybe the problem with certain people is that they're the type to go to a movie and walk out because they can't follow the plot, or constantly bug the people around them asking stupid questions like, "Who's that guy? Why is he helping her? Don't they hate each other?"
That would explain why certain people don't see Trump as the bad guy. They are unable to keep up with America's current plot line (or they're mindlessly rooting for the mafia in this picture).
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
Maybe the problem with certain people is that they're the type to go to a movie and walk out because they can't follow the plot, or constantly bug the people around them asking stupid questions like, "Who's that guy? Why is he helping her? Don't they hate each other?"
That would explain why certain people don't see Trump as the bad guy. They are unable to keep up with America's current plot line (or they're mindlessly rooting for the mafia in this picture).
Of course, why do I get the feeling that I am talking to a mopologist? I know, because of the unsupported emotional outbursts. You ought to take a look at the latest on Russia gate. Turns out it was a Clinton concoction designed to move the narrative away from her emails and from the Comey about face at the end.
The funny thing is that the country would have tired of Trump pretty fast had the nonsense russia gate mainstream media monopoly been allowed an early death. Instead, the next month will show the republican base that their ideas about a supposed coup were more plausible and perhaps some of these "idiot" undecideds will again side with Trump due to the issue the democrats gave him.
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen
No takers on this one yet? I thought it was the lowest point of the "debate" on Trump's part. Not that I consider what I witnessed a debate at all.
It would take some mind reading to answer, lacking which I have no idea what he meant.
If he had said Proud Boys stand back and stand down, it would have made all the difference in the world. But that's not what he said. His words simply put them on delay status.
It was certainly crazy that he said it, though it's possible he didn't mean to say stand by...but in conjunction with his call to arms for his supporters to show up and "monitor" polling places it's certainly ominous.
I'd put that (the call for his supporters to show up and police polling stations) as the most diabolical statement I've heard said by a US President, ever. It ranks worse than even the march to war by the Bush administration as it is blatant disregard of our Democracy and corrosive to the rule of law within our own borders. I was, and am, livid over that statement.
Yes. Mr. Law and Order is the one calling for the exact opposite and he's the last person capable of delivering law and order.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Did a smidge of research on the Proud Boys. To me, the name has always been evocative of the nativist gangs of the 1840's. The actual name Proud Boys is a bit of a joke. Gavin McInnes, a far-right political commentator and co-founder of Vice, named them after the Disney Aladdin Song Proud of Your Boy.
Southern Poverty Law Center wrote:Other hardcore members of the so-called "alt-right" have argued that the “western chauvinist” label is just a “PR c--- term” McInnes crafted to gain mainstream acceptance. “Let’s not BS,” Brian Brathovd, a.k.a. Caeralus Rex, told his co-hosts on the antisemitic The Daily Shoah — one of the most popular alt-right podcasts. If the Proud Boys “were pressed on the issue, I guarantee you that like 90% of them would tell you something along the lines of ‘Hitler was right. Gas the Jews.’”
"The great problem of any civilization is how to rejuvenate itself without rebarbarization." - Will Durant "We've kept more promises than we've even made" - Donald Trump "Of what meaning is the world without mind? The question cannot exist." - Edwin Land