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Re: Election Litigation Scorecard

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:03 pm
So, when the President said, “Michigan just refused to certify the election results.", he was lying?
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Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:23 pm
If the state refused to certify the results, it's news to me. Wayne County initially deadlocked on its vote to certify. Then it reached a compromise. Then the two GOP members tried to renege.
A rather anxious Google of "Michigan refuses to certify" only turned up references from one or two days back referring to the initial Wayne county refusal of Republicans to certify. Which they later revoked, and later but ineffectually tried to re-revoke. Nothing since then.
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Chap wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:59 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:03 pm
So, when the President said, “Michigan just refused to certify the election results.", he was lying?
Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:23 pm
If the state refused to certify the results, it's news to me. Wayne County initially deadlocked on its vote to certify. Then it reached a compromise. Then the two GOP members tried to renege.
A rather anxious Google of "Michigan refuses to certify" only turned up references from one or two days back referring to the initial Wayne county refusal of Republicans to certify. Which they later revoked, and later but ineffectually tried to re-revoke. Nothing since then.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:06 pm
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Wow! Michigan just refused to certify the election results! Having courage is a beautiful thing. The USA stands proud!
3:11 am · 18 Nov 2020,

That was yesterday, no?
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... the law firm that is doing the legal work is orders of magnitude more competent than Giuliani...
He quoted My Cousin Vinny.

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NEW: The Trump campaign is seeking to withdraw its Michigan election lawsuit, saying the litigation achieved its goal of derailing the certification of election results in Detroit and surrounding Wayne County https://trib.al/swlw8Hv
by the way, Buddy Boy was up until at least 1:00am EST last night tweeting his butt off.
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My favorite Giuliani courtroom exchange:
Giuliani: In the plaintiffs' counties, they were denied the opportunity to have an unobstructed observation and ensure opacity. I'm not quite sure I know what opacity means. It probably means you can see, right?

District Judge Matthew Brann: It means you can't.

Giuliani: Big words, your honour.
...and reportedly Rudy wants $20,000 a day for his work.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:23 pm

If the state refused to certify the results, it's news to me. Wayne County initially deadlocked on its vote to certify. Then it reached a compromise. Then the two GOP members tried to renege.
Actually there was no compromise, the affidavit filed stated they were threatened and bullied at a meeting. The State says they can't rescind their vote, but the next board to vote for certification is also 2 Democrats and 2 repubs.
Yes, the Michigan system is really selling confidence in its design.
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Trump would have been spinning this fake election crap back in 2016 if he had lost. Not all Republicans would have bought it, because they had not all drunk the Trump Kool-Aid back then and the new fascist movement had not fully solidified behind him.


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Last week, an individual in Georgia sued in federal court to stop certification of the vote in GA. (Lin Wood v. Raffensperger) (There are so many of these damn lawsuits, I better start calling them by their names.) The suit alleged irregularities in the counting of ballots. The case was dismissed today, but I haven't seen the order yet. That leaves exactly zero currently active cases challenging the results in GA.

I saw a headline saying Georgia's hand recount has confirmed that Biden won the state, although the margin is smaller. Trump is entitled to a machine recount after certification.

A total of five cases were filed in PA that consist of appeals from the final counts of county Boards of Elections. Three were filed by a candidate for state Senate, Nicole Ziccarelli and two by the Trump campaign. These are all filed in state court and appear to be part of the regular election process. Two of Ziccarelli's appeals were denied. The state GOP has moved to intervene in one and have the decision reviewed by the PA Supreme Court. One of Trump's appeals (Bucks Count) was just denied. https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... 564-01.pdf

There are still a number of federal cases pending as well.

A third candidate in Nevada has filed for a do over in Commission C (the Commission that the County Board recommended a revote in) because of Clark County's use of a machine to verify signatures. (Becker v. Cannizzaro).

And a final PA update. The intermediate appellate court reversed the trial court’s ruling in Ziccarelli’s appeal of the count in Allegheny County. So, the 2349 ballots without a date on the envelope will not be counted. Because some of the Bucks County votes had missing or partial dates, that likely means Trump will get about 1000 votes thrown out in that suit. I suspect the Allegheny County decision can be appealed to the State Supreme Court. The quantities we’re talking about won’t change the result of the Presidential race. But they might make Zaccarelli a winner (not sure how close that one is.)

Opinion: https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... County.pdf

AZ: The state trial court dismissed the Republican party’s attempt to prevent Maricopa County from verifying its totals. The the court also set a deadline for the defendants to file a motion for fees. Not sure if these are awardable by statute or this is a hint from the judge.

https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-cont ... 53-005.pdf
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Friday litigation news:

PA: Missed this one. In its Philadelphia County appeal from decisions of the Board of Elections, the Trump campaign filed appeals on five different issues. The PA Supreme Court has agreed to hear the following issue in all five:
Does the Election Code require county boards of elections to disqualify mail-in or absentee ballots submitted by qualified electors who signed their ballot’s outer envelopes but did not handwrite their name, their address, and/or a date, where no fraud or irregularity has been alleged?
Resolving this issue should pretty much decide the BOE appeals in all five counties.
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