With this big stupid bill my state will lose something like 7 hospitals, and 82,000 vulnerable people won’t get healthcare. We’re a small state, so I can only imagine what the other 49 will go through. Between the stupid tariffs, which take a huge crap on the middle and lower classes, and ripping away all these hospitals, well, leopards will be eating a lot of faces.
Anyone who works here legally is getting a tax break and likely a raise. If you're on welfare or here illegally, the Trump movement is not for you. This was what Trump promised before the election. This is what we voted for. Thankfully for the taxpayer, you guys didn't get your way and the working class taxpayer got a reprieve.
Did you, though? How much extra are you paying in tariffs than last year? Will those savings pay for health insurance, deductibles, and post-care expenses? In any case, I’m glad Ajax18 has shown us once again, just how vile his beliefs are and how evil he and his ilk are. People will be ruined and die over this.
- Doc
PS - A rural hospital in Nebraska is already shuttering its windows in anticipation of these cuts. That means Republicans will be dying, too. In fact, ~300 more hospitals in just KY, TN, and OK will most likely close down. A lot of white Republicans are going to die, from PREVENTABLE causes, and look at how this selfish son of a bitch is grinning ear to ear.
The link above, “Yale and Penn researchers say the ~$1T in healthcare cuts will kill over 51,000 Americans every year—mostly from lost Medicaid, gutted nursing home staffing, and stripped ACA subsidies. They show exactly how coverage loss and understaffed care lead to preventable deaths, especially for the elderly and low-income. The letter warns plainly: if these cuts pass, tens of thousands will die each year.”
And that’s just for loss of coverage modeled on 7.7 million people. What if it is 17 million? What we’re seeing is true hate, not the big bad swears that hurts your fee fees, but true honest-to-god evil being unleashed on this country. You MAGAs serve the Devil.
The link above, “Yale and Penn researchers say the ~$1T in healthcare cuts will kill over 51,000 Americans every year—mostly from lost Medicaid, gutted nursing home staffing, and stripped ACA subsidies. They show exactly how coverage loss and understaffed care lead to preventable deaths, especially for the elderly and low-income. The letter warns plainly: if these cuts pass, tens of thousands will die each year.”
And that’s just for loss of coverage modeled on 7.7 million people. What if it is 17 million? What we’re seeing is true hate, not the big bad swears that hurts your fee fees, but true honest-to-god evil being unleashed on this country. You MAGAs serve the Devil.
- Doc
There's a lot of things worse than death Doc. Live free or die. Anyone willing to work has nothing to worry about. In fact they have reason to rejoice.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
Anyone willing to work has nothing to worry about.
So, if you are "willing to work" but your work doesn't pay much and your job does not give you medical cover, and you find that you have cancer, and that Medicaid is not there to help you - how will that be "nothing to worry about"? And how will you have 'reason to rejoice"?
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
Anyone willing to work has nothing to worry about.
So, if you are "willing to work" but your work doesn't pay much and your job does not give you medical cover, and you find that you have cancer, and that Medicaid is not there to help you - how will that be "nothing to worry about"? And how will you have 'reason to rejoice"?
Perhaps you could ask my grandfather. Some of it for him was that he new that he was leaving the fruits of his labor and his efforts to his sons and his grandchildren. But ultimately the real reason to rejoice and fearlessly meet death as he did is found in his faith in Christ, not in the government. If you don't believe in Christ, even Socrates challenged the idea that death is the worst thing that could happen to a man.
But don't pretend that this is about people with cancer or actual rare disabilities. This is about a culture of entitled people who have gamed the welfare system for many generations now. The idea that they will now either have to make something of themselves or take jobs that pay about the same as their welfare check is very frightening indeed. Or perhaps they'll have to make compromises and stay in their marriages rather than being married to the government. Or perhaps forego marriage and children at all if they're not willing to make the sacrifices that come with it. It's a hard thing to be asked to take on a policy of self reliance when you're used to having everything handed to you.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
So, if you are "willing to work" but your work doesn't pay much and your job does not give you medical cover, and you find that you have cancer, and that Medicaid is not there to help you - how will that be "nothing to worry about"? And how will you have 'reason to rejoice"?
Perhaps you could ask my grandfather. Some of it for him was that he new that he was leaving the fruits of his labor and his efforts to his sons and his grandchildren. But ultimately the real reason to rejoice and fearlessly meet death as he did is found in his faith in Christ, not in the government. If you don't believe in Christ, even Socrates challenged the idea that death is the worst thing that could happen to a man.
But don't pretend that this is about people with cancer or actual rare disabilities. This is about a culture of entitled people who have gamed the welfare system for many generations now. The idea that they will now either have to make something of themselves or take jobs that pay about the same as their welfare check is very frightening indeed. Or perhaps they'll have to make compromises and stay in their marriages rather than being married to the government. Or perhaps forego marriage and children at all if they're not willing to make the sacrifices that come with it. It's a hard thing to be asked to take on a policy of self reliance when you're used to having everything handed to you.
Thank you for your clarification.
However, my question was specifically intended to be about the kind of hard working people that you (and indeed I myself) find admirable. There are people like that who work hard, but do not have medical coverage as part of their employment package, nor do they earn enough to pay for decent private health insurance as well as paying for food and rent.
The cuts to Medicaid will inevitably mean that if one of those admirable people becomes seriously ill, they may simply have no access to medical care apart from swallowing painkillers. Does that bother you at all?
Or do you see their deaths (which in their final stages may involve prolonged and intense suffering) as acceptable collateral damage so long as you succeed in punishing the "culture of entitled people who have gamed the welfare system for many generations now"?
(And I am of course asking you, since you and not your grandfather are the one who posts on this board.)
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
Ajax, do you believe that when Hitler built the Autobahn it created jobs for people who otherwise wouldn't have jobs? Did Adolf Hitler help the economy?
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
The cuts to Medicaid will inevitably mean that if one of those admirable people becomes seriously ill, they may simply have no access to medical care apart from swallowing painkillers. Does that bother you at all?
I don't rejoice in anyone's suffering, not even the welfare class that games the system. There are times when people do honestly need help. That's going to be something that they work out with the bishop in my community. I'll continue to give fast offerings as part of the effort. These things need to be done at local level and face to face. Otherwise the system is too easily abused and quickly bankrupted.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
You still didn't address Chap's concern, Ajax. You really love to hear what you want to hear. When is the last time the Bishop's storehouse paid for chemotherapy?
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
