Chap is so right! You are so way out of date! Your ignorant rejection of the scientific reality of climate change and environmental degradation, both of which are driven by our exponentially increasing reliance on fossil fuels, is every bit as irrational as insisting that the world is flat!ajax18 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2026 5:14 pmIf the war in Iran is driving up the price of gasoline, you should be happy given your environmental alarmist nature that leads you to embrace policies and unilateral carbon emission reduction agreements which disproportionately hurt the American people. Because in your view, we're responsible for bearing the cost of environmental regulations because we have more money than other nations. When Democrats take power, gasoline, electricity, and even fresh potable water will be heavily taxed for two reasons. It's part of income redistribution from working to nonworking people, which is the fundamental goal of democratic socialism. But it's also to punish American and only American people who use fossil fuels that are destroying the planet.
The only way you're going to make green energy competitive is to drive up the price of fossil fuels. So why aren't you jumping up and down happy about the price of gasoline, when it's literally saving the planet according to yodpur logic?
Yes, it is true that the increasing cost of fossil fuels is an effective motivation to drive us to cheaper, greener, and safer energy technologies, but fossil fuels are unavoidably going to get more expensive, Iran war or not, simply because of their exponentially rapid depletion and expense of finding and extracting them. Do you deny that?
Besides that, as already pointed out to you numerous times, renewable energy is already cheaper than fossil fuels and is getting cheaper still as our technology advances and becomes more efficient. Even if it were not getting progressively less expensive relatively (which it is), is preventing destructive climate change and promoting a safer and healthier environment not worth some additional expense and effort?
Another valid and powerful motivation for transitioning to renewable energy technology is that our chief rival, China is massively out-competing us in that area very much to their future benefit and dominance and our inevitable demise, if we don't massively step up our own efforts in that area. We are in extreme danger of losing our scientific, technological and economic leadership, if we haven't already lost it! If you doubt that, you are a flaming idiot!
Did you even attempt to look at the references I linked to that unequivocally document my claims? Why not? Why do you doubt that the fossil fuel industry is lying to us about their denial of adverse consequences of fossil fuels and advantages of reducing our dependence on them? Do you really think they wouldn't lie to protect their massive profits? Do you own a massive amount of stock shares in the fossil fuel industry or something related?
And why to you single out me for attack on green and environmental issues? Don't you realize that others on this forum, such as Chap, canpakes, Philo Sofee, Physics Guy, Res Ipsa et al, with whom I am largely in agreement, probably know considerably more about these same issues than I do?
