Election Litigation Status

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Res wrote:OK Sub. Quote the portion of the stipulated facts that constitute evidence of fraud. I can wait.
Trust me, you can't wait that long.
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subgenius wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:49 am
Philo Sofee wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:41 am


It's vastly more awkward that you haven't realized Joe Biden was properly elected as President and will be in office on January 20th.
So, 3 frenetic posts later and it's clear that you have no idea how a Presidential election functions.
It's less embarrassing if you google it yourself.
The Electoral College elected Joe Biden President today. That has functioned that way for centuries. I realize you aren't cognizant of it, but your ignorance is not my liability. Now if you could just inform your pimp how it all works in reality, that might be a step forward for him to pull up his pants and that zipper and you get up off your knees and quit titilating him otherwise.
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subgenius wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:30 am
canpakes wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:03 am


Different votes for different folks.
well its awkward now that i realize you don't know why it's sexy.
Your pride in your own electile dysfunction is noted. : D
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canpakes wrote:
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Your pride in your own electile dysfunction is noted. : D
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Ref the publicity stunt the magatards pulled today:

https://Twitter.com/StotheOB/status/1338668603382456320

Easily linked for the phone-using m.d.s..
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subgenius wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:33 am
As of today - Trump is President.
Most likely the same will be true on January 21st.
Most likely? I was going to bet you a nickel, but now I think I should ask what odds you're offering.
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OK, I've updated the first post, which summarizes the pending cases. There are a fair number of them still pending, because of the procedures used by the various plaintiffs. They filed complaints together with motions for emergency relief. In many of the cases, the emergency relief was denied and then appealed. When the appeal failed, the case itself was still pending. In others, the case was dismissed before the motion for emergency relief was considered -- these were mostly jurisdictional issues.

Anything that is filed from now on is either going to be past the state law deadlines for election contests or subject to laches (you sat on your ass too long before filing). I expect that most of the cases will be mopped up on motions to dismiss or voluntary dismissals.

Many of the lawsuits are moot, as they ask for remedies that can no longer be awarded (e.g., stop the state from certifying). And most will be moot after inauguration day, as the only way to remove a sitting president is through impeachment. However, some of the complaints could be amended in a way that would allow them to continue. For example, the Kraken cases all make use of Dominion voting machines. If plaintiffs in those cases ask, say, for an injunction against the state to prohibit use of those machines in future elections, the cases may not be moot. In other words, if she really has evidence that Dominion machines changed votes, she can have that evidence tested in court. Right now she's saying she has four cases pending in the Supreme Court. Actually, she has two in the Court of Appeals, one actual petition for certiorari, and one petition for certiorari that attempts to bypass the Court of Appeals completely. Anybody who pays the fee can file a cert petition on a case after losing in the Court of Appeals. So, "pending" as she is using the term doesn't really mean anything. What she doesn't have is a case that the Supreme Court has agreed to hear.

Because I've been interested in the whole process, I've been checking and updating this thread several times a day. Now that the EC has voted, there is little chance of anything dramatic happening in court. So I'll just try to check in at the end of the day with any news.

One takeaway from all this is that Trump and friends have established a huge body of case law that stands as precedent. His use of the legal system to try and attack election integrity has actually strengthened the body of case law that protects election integrity. Next time around, the little boys and girls who cry "fraud" will have a much greater risk of being sanctioned by courts.
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Bret Ripley wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:07 am
subgenius wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:33 am
As of today - Trump is President.
Most likely the same will be true on January 21st.
Most likely? I was going to bet you a nickel, but now I think I should ask what odds you're offering.

A nickle? I was thinking more like loser leaves the board forever.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:28 am
A nickle? I was thinking more like loser leaves the board forever.
(There is a non-zero chance that subgenious is now trying to figure out what the hell you have against me.)
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Bret Ripley wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:19 am
Res Ipsa wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:28 am
A nickle? I was thinking more like loser leaves the board forever.
(There is a non-zero chance that subgenious is now trying to figure out what the hell you have against me.)
LOL!!!
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