Obama suing one of his own states?

[_ludwigm]

This is what liberals do, they misrepresent (pervert) everything.

I am happy you are handling everything correctly.
Without any bias.

[_moksha]

I mean, I don't have Cable right now, thus stuck watching local channels and news, and it drives me nuts. Because I watch these news programs, and they are nothing but simplistic liberal crap and lying. I have to turn on the radio to get the FULL FACTS of a particular issue, or go online.

When the news doesn't say what you want, it is nice to know that right-wing AM talk radio is there to alter it to suit your tastes. Gives you hope for the thousand year Gospel and rules of blood and iron which are eternally the same.

[_krose]

Damn, we've been found out, thanks to clever folks like Obiwan. Sure, his words may make him look like a crazy person who hides in a bunker wearing a foil hat, and he may sound like the Animal Farm sheep, repeatedly bleating "Conservatives Gooood, Liberals Baaaaad."

But he has stumbled onto the truth of our great liberal conspiracy, and now our secret agenda may just be doomed.

We liberals will stop at nothing in our zeal to destroy the Chosen Land, the United States of America, because we hate it so much. We wish we had a wonderful leader like Josef Stalin (may his sacred bones rest in peace) to take us into our glorious Marxist future. To that end, the more brown people we can let into the country with the open borders we desire, the better, because we know they do not value god-given freedoms like white people do.

We hate private businesses, and look forward to the day when they are all owned by the state.

We resent every baby that is born, and cheer for every abortion, the later term the better. In fact, we will only be happy when every baby is aborted (preferably in the ninth month). Since some will manage to escape our abortion plans, we demand the right to have gay sex with your baby boys, and force your baby girls into prostitution. We will also take care of your elderly with our Death Panels.

We detest Christianity, and are actively working to destroy it, especially the Mormon version, even though we know in our hearts that it is the Truth. We support Islamic jihadists for now because they scare Christians so much, but once they have beheaded all the Christians, our plan is to turn on them and institute Atheism as the official state religion (because we know it is one) of the People's Republic of Lamania.

It's all out now. Curse you and your cleverness, Obiwan.

[_Obiwan]

Krose.... There is a difference from the ignorant rank and file liberal who has no clue that they are supporting and following an evil agenda and those like Obama and others who know "exactly" what they are doing, but trying to portray a different picture, save when they think you're not paying attention, or the moments when they are with their own and say exactly what they believe and desire to do.

I'm not simply stating opinion, I've SEEN their words, their actions, their teachers, their associations, their connections, etc. present and past. They are directly "pretending" to be mainstream while having an entirely different agenda, whittling away every aspect of what made America great to make us low like everyone else.

Take just one of the most obvious examples.... the Health Care Bill. They wanted to make us full fledged socialized health care, by their own words past and even present, but they "had" to not do "everything" they want to do, so as to get "some" of what they want changed changed.

Anyway, I'm not a conspiracy nut, I for example can't stand those like Alex Jones, I just know FACTS and history you clearly don't. For example, when I first got politically interested and active, I voted for Harry Reid.... But I'm far from that ignorant now. I know so much now that I'm ashamed he's even a fellow Mormon, let alone on the other side to truth and right.

So, don't judge the messengers of things you don't know and understand a thing about.
I seek the full truth and facts of all things that are useful and important, and there is a war occuring between good and evil for even the very soul of our Nation. You not seeing and understanding that, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I was ignorant once, but certainly aren't anymore. And before you think it, I take "special" care in my every judgment, that it is the full and actual truth, and not simply an ignorant perception and feeling based. For example, I'll call Bush on his couple of mistakes, thus am entirely consistent, not to mention Alex Jones who's great on most Constitutional issues, but a complete idiot and moron on other issues such as 9/11.

I have no interest in conspiracy theory's nor cults of personality. I'm ALL FACTS and TRUTH.
Your post was "cute"..... but a complete LIE about my thoughts and character, as well as other conservatives who understand these things. It is only fantasy in your own minds of us, thus you mock us, mocking things you don't understand. But, nothing new with liberals, you take the "easy" and seeming obvious route to judgment of everything.

[_Eric]

Krose.... There is a difference from the ignorant rank and file liberal who has no clue that they are supporting and following an evil agenda...
I have no interest in conspiracy theory's...

Ha!!!

[_Obiwan]

Sorry, not a conspiracy theory, it's the actual facts of the situation. I know their words, I know their actions, thus it's the simple facts.

Take for example the extermination of the Jews by Hitler. The rank and file German willingly followed that evil man embracing most of his ideology's but not really understanding their scope and meaning, other than his cult of personality and Nationalist Fervor (sound familiar Obama?), because most didn't actually know he was exterminating an entire race of people, and they also didn't really understand that he was wanting to take over the world at ANY cost.

Thus, given your ignorant comment above, trying to make facts "conspiracy theory's", if you were a German and heard "rumors" that Jews were being killed, you likely wouldn't have believed it either, just like you don't believe what I'm saying about Liberals and Liberalism, the agendas of those at the top and many involved.

Anyway, all this stuff is in their own words, actions, books, associations, ideology's, etc. You are simply ignorant of all the information and the connections. Facts and truth is not "conspiracy theory". I don't believe in ANY known conspiracy theory, thus I'm not susceptible to such malarkey. I'm simply informed, you are not. Just like I'm fully informed on Mormonism, while most here aren't but only think they are. I know for a fact that THEIR "conspiracy theory's" on Mormonism and Mormons themselves ARE NOT THE TRUTH, but a perversion thereof and an omission of fact and truth, thus false and degrading conclusions are made. Their "Mormonism" is not actual Mormonism.

[_aussieguy55]

You need to get FOX (Faux) on cable - right up your street, supports all your biases and fears

Bill O'Reilly - man of self control - see the famous youtube of him dropping the FBomb - He also had a sexual harrassement case against him settled out of court. Jon Stewart has a lot of fun with this guy. Stephen Cobert and Jon Stewart have pointed out where he has misused film footage. Needs some update on how the tides occur. Did not know the moon controlled the tides when he was debating an athiest. If he claims to be a christian he sure needs to tone down. Should christians go around calling anyone who disagrees with them a pinhead? Arrogant and full of himself.

You brother in the faith, Glenn Beck, a man for all seasons - sees conspiracies everywhere - called Obama a racist. Pushes gold for goldline - He gets 30 million a year a lot more than the striking teachers who have "real" degrees from college not something from Glenn Beck's University. Believes God was once a man and became of God. he can become a God himself.

Greta Van Susteran is a Scientologist. "A Hubbard policy that says church enemies "may be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist;'' and that the person "may be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.'' Hubbard canceled the policy in 1968, but critics say the church still uses it to justify harassment of opponents. "

Her is a sample of Fox
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/0 ... 31241.html

[_cambreckenridge]

The federal government can, and has, sued individual states in the past. That's nothing new or particularly nefarious. The most recent time I can remember is GWBush suing California when that state voted against off-shore oil drilling.

It does seem to me to interfere with a state's right to act on issues that impact it directly, and I'd rather see those issues handled in other ways, but that's part of our system. Whether the dispute gets appealed & rises through the court system to the Supreme Court, I haven't bothered to look up.

Cam

[_ajax18]

The federal government can, and has, sued individual states in the past. That's nothing new or particularly nefarious. The most recent time I can remember is GWBush suing California when that state voted against off-shore oil drilling.

It does seem to me to interfere with a state's right to act on issues that impact it directly, and I'd rather see those issues handled in other ways, but that's part of our system. Whether the dispute gets appealed & rises through the court system to the Supreme Court, I haven't bothered to look up.

Cam

I just think that if the federal government decides to let all the immigrants in, it should have to pay for it. I've heard people opine, "Well if you live in AZ, than that should be your burden to bear." This attitude and it's outcome is exactly what the founding fathers wanted to avoid when drafting the Constitution or choosing to not form a union at all.

I also think that if a judge wants to legislate from the bench to ignore immigration law saying, "Americans are too selfish and should share with those who don't have, that judge should have to fund the immigrants out of his own personal money and perhaps even his professional status." It's easy to give away somebody elses land, money, and profession and I see nothing noble about it.

[_Eric]

Sorry, not a conspiracy theory, it's the actual facts of the situation. I know their words, I know their actions, thus it's the simple facts.

Well, clearly. You've certainly cemented your reputation as a thoughtful, intelligent, reasonable person on this board. LOL! Remember when you said that all presidential assassins were "left-wing?" LOL!

Take for example the extermination of the Jews by Hitler. The rank and file German willingly followed that evil man embracing most of his ideology's but not really understanding their scope and meaning, other than his cult of personality and Nationalist Fervor (sound familiar Obama?), because most didn't actually know he was exterminating an entire race of people, and they also didn't really understand that he was wanting to take over the world at ANY cost.

Golly, you sure don't know much about history, do you? I'm pretty sure this article is light-years ahead of your reading level, but I'll try anyway: "Common Dreams"

The "Right-Wing" of Germany's government was responsible for Hitler's rise to power, not your imaginary liberal villains. The German Socialist Party was not the same thing as Hitler's National Socialist Party (LOL).

Please tell us all again about how you're not a conspiracy theorist and I'm ignorant. I love a good laugh.

Thus, given your ignorant comment above, trying to make facts "conspiracy theory's", if you were a German and heard "rumors" that Jews were being killed, you likely wouldn't have believed it either, just like you don't believe what I'm saying about Liberals and Liberalism, the agendas of those at the top and many involved.

If I wrote the above quote, I would be so ashamed of myself I don't know what I would do.

I'm simply informed, you are not.

LOL! Everyone is a hero in his own mind, I suppose.

Just like I'm fully informed on Mormonism, while most here aren't but only think they are.

And it turns out that you are completely delusional. Who would have guessed?