Had it been a true political master stroke he would have waited until the summer of 2012 when the Republican candidate would have had to go on the record as a birther in order to get the nomination from the Republican base which is a majority birther or very nearly so. Then that record could be used to cement the Republican nominee as a far right politican driving the sane independents to the Democrats and creating a 1964 Goldwater type defeat.
Well yes, this is how left wing nutcases paint those in the mainstream who are concerned about following the constitution. But my original statement applies, Obama is fully and solely responsible for the controversy. It doesn't matter who the president is or what color is his skin though it is true that because he is such a terrible president it would be a good thing to invalidate everything he's done to this point.
BS, bc, complete and utter BS. The controversy arose because Obama is the half-black son of a Kenyan.
"I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. ... Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I." - Joseph Smith, 1844
Had it been a true political master stroke he would have waited until the summer of 2012 when the Republican candidate would have had to go on the record as a birther in order to get the nomination from the Republican base which is a majority birther or very nearly so. Then that record could be used to cement the Republican nominee as a far right politican driving the sane independents to the Democrats and creating a 1964 Goldwater type defeat.
Well yes, this is how left wing nutcases paint those in the mainstream who are concerned about following the constitution. But my original statement applies, Obama is fully and solely responsible for the controversy. It doesn't matter who the president is or what color is his skin though it is true that because he is such a terrible president it would be a good thing to invalidate everything he's done to this point.
The original birth certificate he issued (short form) was legal proof of his citizenship. Frankly you'd have to be mentally retarded to demand more.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Buffalo wrote:The original birth certificate he issued (short form) was legal proof of his citizenship. Frankly you'd have to be mentally r******* to demand more.
Or a bigot.
"I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. ... Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I." - Joseph Smith, 1844
Buffalo wrote:The original birth certificate he issued (short form) was legal proof of his citizenship. Frankly you'd have to be mentally r******* to demand more.
Or a bigot.
Both descriptions work for someone like bcspace.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
The whole controversy was stupid. I'm ashamed that many on the Right perpetuated it for so long.
On the other hand, I think they would have been equally as obsessed if Obama had been fully white and his father from France or Italy and someone could convince groups of people that this Democrat was born there.
I do think it is an interesting study of the Scratchian methodology on a national scale. Like Scratch, they demanded proof. When proof was given they doubted the veracity of the proof and demanded more, all the time insisting that it would be so easy to disprove them if the evidence was there at all. Then, when proof is finally supplied that even Scratch couldn't reject, they, like Scratch, insist that withholding the proof was evidence of some kind of conspiracy or manipulation.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
bcspace wrote: But my original statement applies, Obama is fully and solely responsible for the controversy.
You should give some credit to the Teahadists of the past 2 1/2 years who have repeated the idiocy even though the short birth certificate was given out before the 2008 Election.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
MASH quotes I peeked in the back [of the Bible] Frank, the Devil did it. I avoid church religiously. This isn't one of my sermons, I expect you to listen.
... and meanwhile, the people who are really making the decisions in the White House are still going completely unnoticed.
I wonder if, at some point, everyone will realize that they are criticizing the wrong people and arguing about the wrong issues. Until they do, there is no possibility of changing anything in a meaningful way... unless, of course, it makes someone a lot of money.