The Wisconsin Recall Election

[_MCB]

There are corruption issues in the Walker administration. They are just emerging, but they are collecting legal defense funds. His underhanded and high-handed ways are bringing him down. He had this plan to weaken the unions, and implemented it almost as soon as he got into office. Nothing said before. So much for transparency. It is not nice to trick the electorate. EA is at the center of it and is more politically in than than me. But I suspect the growth in jobs is mostly low-paying without insurance. And this is one thing you hear over and over. Nothing said about what kind of jobs.

However, Wisconsin is better than Kansas. I can't complain.

[_EAllusion]

Incidentally, I started a thread on the Walker union story right before it broke on another message board.

http://vine.rottentomatoes.com/vine/sho ... ?t=2264617

There's well over a 1000 posts and if you have the patience you can follow the evolution of arguments clearly. There's enough there to debunk some of the common misconceptions that seem to go around. Also, I'm mostly dead-on in my predictions there, so a big back pat for me. I did think Falk was going to win the recall nomination - something I wasn't happy with - but she got crushed.

[_EAllusion]

Our job growth rate for 2011 was recently revised from worst in the entire country to still pretty bad, but at least not negative. In the first quarter of this year, job growth spiked up to respectable and based on national trends might be falling off again recently. I'm not big on state governors or challengers claiming that they play all that significant of a role in the employment rate, but what's going on in the local economy can't really be used as a feather in anyone's cap.

This is a bit of a tightrope to walk for both parties, as right now the Republicans want to argue things are going well in the state to protect an incumbent. But the script will have to be flipped come November with Obama under the gun.

[_moksha]

You hate unions because unions traditionally have aligned with the American left, so you favor breaking them. That's it. Freedom has nothing to do with it. Just your raw, tribal desire to see your enemies broken before you.

Don't forget Bc's desire to hear the lamentations of their women.

[_bcspace]

I do very much hope that GOP Governor Scott Walker ends up winning this recall election.

The Democrats will bring out the usual ignorant voter segment, but it's still looking good:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/governor/wi/wisconsin_governor_recall_election_walker_vs_barrett-3056.html

Left wing activists are descending on the state now to help the dead manipulate the vote.

Don't forget Bc's desire to hear the lamentations of their women.

Figuratively speaking, yes, yes I do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PQ6335puOc

What Wisconsin needs to do now is get rid of their nexus tax as that negatively affects outside business operations in their state, firstly and foremostly, by raising prices.

[_Brackite]

The Democrats will bring out the usual ignorant voter segment, but it's still looking good:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/governor/wi/wisconsin_governor_recall_election_walker_vs_barrett-3056.html

Thanks, bcspace! This is indeed really good news. I also hope that GOP Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch wins her recall election.

[_EAllusion]

Thanks, bcspace! This is indeed really good news.

I like how you quote an article based around a central and easily refuted false premise, I point this out, and you ignore it and press on. Do you actually care about the content of the issues at all?

[_bcspace]

Thanks, bcspace! This is indeed really good news. I also hope that GOP Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch wins her recall election.

The WI election committee has also recently approved the recall elections of three Democratic legislators. Will probably happen in late June or July. Democratic lawyers opposing the process had their own arguments used against them.

[_bcspace]

Odd that BSCspace doesn't think Walker's team blanketing the airwaves with advertizements, enjoying something like an 8-1 spending advantage, has something to do with his polling. Because if it doesn't, why go through all the trouble and expense of doing that in the first place?

I have no illusions knowing that many voters are ignorant, especially Democratic ones. Obama enjoyed vastly more in donations than McCain. 2012 looks to be the same though Romney is catching up fast.

A lot of it is indeed getting your message out and that takes money. A candidate is truly blessed when he can afford a two-pronged attack to blanket the constituency with his personal message AND have his (mostly) nameless operatives blanketing the constituency with the negative side.

Conservative voters suffer from intuitively knowing what's right but not being able to express it and not being able to organize as an irresistible mindless mob like the Democrats do.

[_Brackite]

Thanks, bcspace! This is indeed really good news.

I like how you quote an article based around a central and easily refuted false premise, I point this out, and you ignore it and press on. Do you actually care about the content of the issues at all?

Dear EAllusion,

Knowing what the public employee unions have done to the State of California with its big financial mess, I really don't think that GOP Governor Scott Walker went too far in doing what he did. The Article may have not been right about everything in it, but it was right about the big financial messes that the States of California and Illinois are in mainly due to the public employee unions there. And apparently, the majority of the voters really don't think that GOP Governor Scott Walker went too far, since it looks like that he is going to win his recall election.

Wisconsin holds recall more than a year in making:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120605/D9V778VG0.html

Gov. Jerry Brown slashes programs for the poor, threatens to do the same to schools

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SACRAMENTO -- Gov. Jerry Brown on Monday proposed slashing programs for the poor and offered voters a stark choice: Approve new taxes, or I'll do the same to schools.

Saying the state faces "a day of reckoning," Brown unveiled a revised budget that depends on passage of a November measure increasing income taxes for the wealthy and sales taxes for everyone.

"Cutting alone really doesn't do it," Brown said. "That's why I'm looking at serious budget reductions, real increased austerity, with a plea to voters: Please increase taxes temporarily."

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Link: http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-new ... reatens-do